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| Posted: Sat Apr 11th, 2009 08:57 pm |
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slowtrot Member 
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INFO! Yes, the Round Table talk, that was filmed on March 17th. It will be broadcast here in the East at 8 P.M. In Tampa, Florida on Channel 129. 
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 02:24 am |
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Another excellent Virginia general, but one who chose the Union. He was thought to be slow by the press and Lincoln, but his attention to detail simply crushed Hood and his ability was fully shown at Chicamuga. Sorry about the spelling but I'm too tired to figure it out right now Just got in from a reenactment a few hours ago.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 01:48 pm |
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Shooter13 said: "Another excellent Virginia general, but one who chose the Union. He was thought to be slow by the press and Lincoln, but his attention to detail simply crushed Hood and his ability was fully shown at Chicamuga . . ." I'm not sure about the "Press." The biggest damage to Thomas' reputation was by Sherman and Grant. Ten years after Thomas' death Grant was spouting off to reporters about how slow Thomas was. Slowtrot
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 04:37 pm |
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slowtrot wrote: Ten years after Thomas' death Grant was spouting off to reporters about how slow Thomas was. Who were these reporters? Here is an article written by Sherman: http://moa.cit.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/pageviewer?root=%2Fmoa%2Fnora%2Fnora0144%2F&tif=00448.TIF&cite=http%3A%2F%2Fcdl.library.cornell.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmoa%2Fmoa-cgi%3Fnotisid%3DABQ7578-0144-64&coll=moa&frames=1&view=50 HankC
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 05:14 pm |
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The Iron Duke Member 
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The term "slow" is all relative. Slow in comparison to what?
____________________ "Cleburne is here!" meant that all was well. -Daniel Harvey Hill |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 05:30 pm |
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ole Member 
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Great link HankC. Many thanks. Ole
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2009 06:23 pm |
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AROUND THE WORLD WITH GENERAL GRANT volume I John Russel Young ‑ Conversations with Gen Grant ‑ Hong Kong pgs 295‑296 "We differed about the Nashville campaign, but there could be no difference as to the effects of the battle. Thomas died suddenly ‑ ‑ very suddenly. He was sitting in his office, I think at head‑quarters, when he fell back unconscious. He never rallied. I remember Sherman coming into the White House in a state of deep emotion with a dispatch, saying, ' I am afraid old Tom is gone.' The news was a shock and a grief to us both. In an hour we learned of his death. The cause was fatty degeneration of the heart, if I remember. I have often thought that this disease, with him long‑seated, may have led to the inertness which affected him as a commander. At West Point, when he was commanding cadets in cavalry drill, he would never go beyond a slow trot. Just as soon as the line began to move, and gain a little speed, Thomas would give the order, 'Slow Trot.' The boys used to call him 'Slow Trot' Thomas. I have no doubt, if the truth were known, the disease from which Thomas died demanded from him constant fortitude, and affected his actions in the field. Nothing would be more probable. Also contained on the URL you supplied, p. 448! Slowtrot Last edited on Mon Apr 20th, 2009 06:31 pm by slowtrot |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 06:47 pm |
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You can see the video tape of Benson Bobrick's discussion of his brilliant new book "Master of War" at:- http://www.booktv.org/watch.aspx?ProgramId=FV-10295 Slowtrot Last edited on Tue Apr 21st, 2009 06:47 pm by slowtrot |
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| Posted: Sat May 2nd, 2009 02:15 pm |
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Check out my interview with Benson Bobrick, author of "Master of War," on my blog: http://ThisMightyScourge.com/.
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| Posted: Sat May 2nd, 2009 11:45 pm |
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Widow Member
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I'm not one to argue with General Grant, but I read somewhere that Thomas ordered the cadets to "slow trot" because the horses at the academy were in such pool condition. Patty
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| Posted: Sun May 3rd, 2009 11:30 am |
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You are right! Another reason was that the areana that they practised in wasnot the best laid out structure for performing galloping maneuvers. He was concerned that the animals would damage the structure further as well as themselves. There is a definitive website and an article dealing with your question on : http://aotc.net/article3.htm slowtrot
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