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 Posted: Sun Oct 22nd, 2006 11:28 am
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Just doing some off the wall thinking here. If you could choose any commander from both sides, who would you choose to command YOUR army?

 

ARMY -- General John Bell Hood

CORPS -- General Stonewall Jackson

DIVISION -- General Joesph Wheeler

BRIGADE -- General Mahon (Irish Brigade)

REGIMENT -- Colonrl Terry (Terry's Texas Rangers -- Cavalry Unit)



 Posted: Tue Nov 7th, 2006 10:17 pm
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Hi, Cowboy,

Looks like you chose all your commanders from just one side.  So natcherly I gotta look at the other side.

Army: Gen. Winfield Scott Hancock

Corps: Gen. John Sedgwick

Cavalry Corps: Gen. John Buford

Yeah, I know, all AotP, all Gettysburg.

Buford and Sherman are my two favorite Union commanders.  Buford because he was the handsomest hunk on both sides (and I don't mean Sam Elliott).  Sherman because he was a red-head like me.  So much for military prowess, hm?

Patty



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Well I'm gonna stick to the AoP theme here, and I would have to say:

Army:  "Uncle" John Sedgwick

Corps:  John Gibbon

Divison:  Philippe Regis Denis de Keredern de Trobriand- just 'cuz he has a cool name

Brigade: Henry Morrow (24th Mich.)

Regiment: Col.  "Paddy" O'Rorke



 Posted: Tue Nov 21st, 2006 01:56 am
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Here's my fantasy Confederate Civil War army which I will order to duty in the Western theater of operations even though some did not actually engage in operations in that theater.

Armyof Tennesse: James Longstreet (Yes, I promoted him to army command and sent him west)

Corps: Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson

Division: Patrick Cleburne

Brigade: Hiram Bronson Granbury

Regiment: John Drew and his regiment of Confederate Cherokees

Cavalry: J.E.B. Stuart

Partisan Rangers: John Mosby

Artillery: E. Porter Alexander

Navy: Commodore Josiah Tattnall, whom I have ordered to the Mississippi River



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JDC Duncan wrote: being an original arkie, I would follow Pat Cleburne to the Gates of Hell and thru.

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Very understandable and, in fact, many men did, figuratively speaking. Too bad Cleburne couldn't have had more time on this Earth and even made it back to Arkansas alive and well.



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My personal fantasy army would be as follows

Army- General Robert E. Lee

Corps- General Ulysses S. Grant or General "Stonewall" Jackson

Brigade- John Gordon

Regiment- Joshua Chamberlain

 

this is just my personal preference,

CJ



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Union Dream Brigade

1st MN VI
2nd MN VI
4th MN VI
2nd/3rd IA VI (consolidated)
1st USSS
2nd USSS
3rd IA Lt Arty


Union Dream Division

Major General Emory Upton Commanding

Union Dream Brigade
John King's Regular Brigade
Wilder's "Lightning" Brigade

3rd IA LT Arty
Battery B 5th US Arty
18th IN Lt Arty

Dream Corps

Dream Army Corps
Maj General John Reynolds

1st Division (1st Div 1st Corps from Gettysburg)
Brig General Wadsworth
"Iron Brigade" & Cutlers Brigade

2nd "Dream" Division
Maj General Emory Upton

3rd Division (1st Div Cav Corps from Gettysburg)
Brig Gen John Buford
___________
Confederate Dream Brigade

1st TN VI
4th Alabama VI
Hampton's Legion (1862)
10th Mississippi VI
Wheat's LA Tigers


Dream Division
Dream Brigade
Robertson's Brigade (from Hood's Div Longstreets Corps)
Smith's Brigade (from Cheathams Div @ Chickamauga)
Forrest's Brigade (under the one and only)

Dream Corps
Longstreet...

CS Dream Division
Cleburne's Division (unchanged from Chickamauga)
Corps Arty (Porter Alexanders command)



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Army Commander -Robert E. Lee

Corps commanders- Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson, John Reyonolds

Divisions: A.P. Hills division in entirity, John Gibbons division, Hoods division  reinforced with 1st Ky. Brigade (Orphans), Cleburnes division in, Winfield Scott Hancocks division, Richard Ewells division, George H. Thomas' division, William Mahone in command of Jackson's Division. ( I know thats 4 divisions per corp)

Artillery: all artillery and commanders will come from the AoP, because of the uniformity of guns in batteries, and number of guns (along with the superiority of Federal ammunition).

Cavalry: Wade Hampton commanding

General Nathan Bedford Forrests, John Mosby's command also attached

Now my army just has to wait for a foriegn power stupid enough to invade...

 

 

 



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Johan Steele wrote: ___________
Confederate Dream Brigade

1st TN VI
4th Alabama VI
Hampton's Legion (1862)
10th Mississippi VI
Wheat's LA Tigers


Dream Division
Dream Brigade
Robertson's Brigade (from Hood's Div Longstreets Corps)
Smith's Brigade (from Cheathams Div @ Chickamauga)
Forrest's Brigade (under the one and only)

Dream Corps
Longstreet...

CS Dream Division
Cleburne's Division (unchanged from Chickamauga)
Corps Arty (Porter Alexanders command)


Very impressive lineup both for the Union and the Confederacy. So glad you have placed Patrick Cleburne as a Division Commander. I did too in my lineup, but in retrospect wish I had given him that corps command he so dreamed of and so richly derserved.  Of course Longstreet makes a sterling corps commander as well.

Ah, yes. Forrest...the one and only. You and I both chose Porter Alexander to command our dream artillery. If I could be so "craetive" maybe I would have added something akin to Berdan's Sharpshooters to my dream Confederate army. If there was a similar outfit to Berdan's in the Confederacy, please tell me who they were. Cleburne did used to hold contests to see who could shoot the best. If I recall correctly, the winners were given the best weapons.

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Kentucky_Orphan wrote: Army Commander -Robert E. Lee

Corps commanders- Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson, John Reyonolds

Divisions: A.P. Hills division in entirity, John Gibbons division, Hoods division  reinforced with 1st Ky. Brigade (Orphans), Cleburnes division in, Winfield Scott Hancocks division, Richard Ewells division, George H. Thomas' division, William Mahone in command of Jackson's Division. ( I know thats 4 divisions per corp)

Artillery: all artillery and commanders will come from the AoP, because of the uniformity of guns in batteries, and number of guns (along with the superiority of Federal ammunition).

Cavalry: Wade Hampton commanding

General Nathan Bedford Forrests, John Mosby's command also attached

 

 

 


Very interesting choices. One wonders what would have happened had Cleburne actually been attached to Winfield Scott Hancock's division, if I understood you correctly.

You have four divisions per corps, but, hey, it is your dream army. You can have ten divisions a corps if the corps commander is man enough to lead that many men and division commanders. You have Reynolds and Jackson as corps commanders. I'd say they  indeed had the timber to be great leaders.

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CleburneFan:If there was a similar outfit to Berdan's in the Confederacy, please tell me who they were. Cleburne did used to hold contests to see who could shoot the best. If I recall correctly, the winners were given the best weapons.

The Confederacy, to my knowledge, did not have Sharpshooters organized in such large quantities as the 1st + 2nd U.S. Sharpshooters, but I do know for a fact that the 1st Kentucky had a similar practice to what you describe with Cleburne, these select few men inside the Brigade were given Kerr rifles that were a present from a British admirer to Breckinridge. They were excellent (as one captured union soldier proclaimed, though he also talked about how poor Confederate artillery was) snipers.

I did acknowledge in my post that I had 4 divisions per corp, though it is unusual (the normal being 3 div. pre corp) I think Reynolds and Jackson could both handle them ably(I did choose the two because I thought that both men could perform independent of the other or the army commander [Lee] ably). I also noticed that I did not choose a head of artillery, so I will go ahead and put Henry Hunt in command.

Lastly, I attached the Orphan Brigade to Hood because his division was understrength when compared to other divisions. 



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Kentucky_Orphan wrote: CleburneFan:If there was a similar outfit to Berdan's in the Confederacy, please tell me who they were. Cleburne did used to hold contests to see who could shoot the best. If I recall correctly, the winners were given the best weapons.

The Confederacy, to my knowledge, did not have Sharpshooters organized in such large quantities as the 1st + 2nd U.S. Sharpshooters, but I do know for a fact that the 1st Kentucky had a similar practice to what you describe with Cleburne, these select few men inside the Brigade were given Kerr rifles that were a present from a British admirer to Breckinridge. They were excellent (as one captured union soldier proclaimed, though he also talked about how poor Confederate artillery was) snipers.

I did acknowledge in my post that I had 4 divisions per corp, though it is unusual (the normal being 3 div. pre corp) I think Reynolds and Jackson could both handle them ably(I did choose the two because I thought that both men could perform independent of the other or the army commander [Lee] ably). I also noticed that I did not choose a head of artillery, so I will go ahead and put Henry Hunt in command.



Henry Hunt is a great choice for artillery...at least in my mind. I don't pretend to be an expert on artillery. I'm basing my opinion on his peformance at Gettysburg.

Thank you for your information about the Kentucky Sharpshooters. Another poster here was kind enough to alert me to an outfit of Alabama Sharpshooters too. That is what is so great about this board. One can learn so much from others here. People, like yourself, are so helpful and willing to share information.



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Well, there is a slumber party going on at my house tonight, and since I am The Adult, I must stay awake and Monitor - and make sure no boys slip in to MerriMack.

This is giving me time to peruse the board like never before. 

In light of the present discussion on what makes a general "great", I thought it would be fun to revive this thread.

It is cool that about half of the people whom originally posted to this thread are still actively with us today.

Com' on Guys, here's your chance to stick it to the NASCAR threads by showing that you really do know how to build a wonderful Fantasy Team.



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Army-Ulysses S Grant
Corps-George Meade
Brigade-Stone Wall Jackson
Regiment-Robert Gould Shaw 54th Mass.
Cavalry-Philip Sheridan



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Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson at the brigade level?  Maybe very early in the war. He was a major general by Oct 1861. But this is a fantasy army after all. So Jackson as a brigade commander it is.



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Army - George H. Thomas/ Robert E. Lee

Corps - Joseph Hooker/Winfield Scott Hancock

Division - Patrick Cleburne/John Gordon/Francis Barlow

Brigade - Emerson Opdycke

Regiment - Arthur McArthur

Cavalry-Robert Minty/John Wilder/J. E. B. Stuart


 

Don



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