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| Posted: Wed May 16th, 2007 04:19 pm |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 1st, 2008 02:38 pm |
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CTmom
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I see this is an old topic, but it is an issue I have strong feelings about. It is downright frightening how little most American kids know about history. We homeschool our children, and they LOVE history. My daughter was four when we covered the Tudors, and she got really into Henry VIII and all his wives. She's seven now, and has read countless books on this topic, just for fun. It was really cool to see a petite four year old trotting about chanting, "Divorced, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded, survived!"
I just reviewed a great book about running history fairs. You can see it here: http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art25736.asp
We try to participate in things such as Veteran's Day essay contests and my kids always work history into our homeschool group reports on National Day and International Day. When I was taught history in school it was dry and dull, but it doesn't have to be that way!
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| Posted: Sat Feb 2nd, 2008 12:45 am |
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Bama46
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The No Child Left Behind Monstrosity as forced on the Amerian populace by the Bush Administration has pretty much guaranteed a loss of history amongst our children. they must spend all their time studying and preparing for the core tests of the NCLB and ther is no time left for such mundane subjects like hisory... and we as a nation are the poorer for it!
Ed
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| Posted: Sat Feb 2nd, 2008 01:34 am |
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Doc C
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Not only lacking in history but in geography. Remember when it was a course in and of itself. Unfortunately, now all one has to do is google it.
Doc C
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| Posted: Sat Feb 2nd, 2008 01:15 pm |
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Bama46
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Doc,
I think you and I suffer from the same illness...we can remember...!
I had 3 semmester hours of Geography in college..and no it was NOT what was referred to as a "crip course"
Ed
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| Posted: Sat Feb 2nd, 2008 07:13 pm |
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ole
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We all seem to have an idea of how education ought to be conducted today. I guess we've forgotten how much new stuff has been picked up since we were in K-12. More wars, including the cold one, more developments in science, theology and history than I can keep up with, and we expect the schools to keep up? C'mon guys and gals, we have difficulty keeping up and we still expect them to read, write, cipher and think?
What our children learn was never intended to be a function of the Federal Government. At the very least, can we expect them to read, write and cipher? Before they are dumped into the real world? As I understand it, this is the essence of "No Child Left Behind." Fraught with hope and woefully missing the whole idea of education, isn't at least the basics that we expect?
Guess I have the advantage that my parents expected me to swallow whatever the teacher was trying to teach -- some basic grounding in that wherever I wanted to go, they wouldn't be speaking a foreign language.
I've gotten into the idea that local control has outlived its time. But I haven't gotten to the point that the Feds know what is best. We've become much to accustomed to the idea that the government knows what is best. We are realizing (well, many of us) that the government has no idea of where to go from here.
So I'm rather fond of the chit system wherein it again becomes the responsibility of the parent to send the kid(s) to a competitive school that is not run by Congress or President. Choice. Vive la marketplace!
ole
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| Posted: Sat Feb 2nd, 2008 08:24 pm |
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Doc C
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We can blame, bitch, acuse, etc. the fed/state govt. all we want. (I agree that theres a great deal lacking in our present day schools.) However, ultimately the responsibility for the education of our children is we parents. Thank god my 2 are out of college with jobs and I don't have to face that again.
Doc C
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| Posted: Sat Feb 2nd, 2008 11:05 pm |
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Dixie Girl
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i have always got A's in History. mainly because its the only subject i like and its interesting.
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War Means Fighting And Fighting Means Killing - N. B. Forrest
When war does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Stonewall Jackson
Sic Semper Tyrannis - John Wilkes Booth
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| Posted: Sun Feb 3rd, 2008 01:25 am |
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Bama46
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Doc,
AMEN...especially the mine are out of school part!
We parents are the ultimate responsibility and that is why I believe the schools must be governed at the local level..
I have always held the belief that the most important government was the local government and the further away from the local scene the government was (state, national and the Damned UN) the less it affected our daily lives and thus the less important it is... this places schools at the #1 2 or at most 3 position.
A local parent group can always decide what is bes tfor thir children better than the most educated fed!!!!!!!
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Bama46
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are y'all gettin the idea that I don't like feds? no matter the shape, color or context.
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Doc C
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Again, as in another post, you're definitely a Jeffersonian.
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ole
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So what do you gentlemen do when the Feds talk about cutting funds? I don't want to think about it. Somewhere, out there, are some really fine people (not all of them) trying to teach the little buggers something so that they might, eventually, join the crowd.
I would really very much like to identify those who are truly TEACHERS. And I would support paying them a great deal of money for their service. Unfortunately, the great ones are few. And the teacher's union wants to hide them so as not to make the rest look bad.
Geez.
ole
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See, once again, there is the problem. The funds aren't the fed's funds in the first place. Instead of sending tax dollars to Washington so the beaureucrats can dole it back to us along with various edicts, unfunded mandates, and the like... why don't we return to the practice that was followed for generations before the 1960's and simply keep the funds local and allow local officials to decide what is best for the local schools... rmember, the US Department of Education has never educated anyone! It serves to dictate to the states and local districts the demands of our "betters" in Dee Cee!
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ole
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In my case, and all my sibs, there was a very simplistic answer: you WILL be as good or better than any of them! So we were. It was expected. There were no self-esteem issues nor what was fair or not fair. An average grade was unacceptable. These were parents! And there really ought to be a few more like them.
ole
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