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| Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 03:33 pm |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 06:05 pm |
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susansweet
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This is really exciting news Browner. I am so glad for Shiloh. One of my favorite battlefields to visit.
Susan
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 09:22 pm |
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browner
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we are pretty excited too. Have heard this may happen for years, so now its finally coming down.
Corinth is getting extra sites turned over to the park service also. A lot of the earthworks in and about town, and also the Contraband Camp site will hopefully be ready by the end of the year for visitors.
You guys come back through and see us!!!!
Nita
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 12:41 am |
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susansweet
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Nita I would love to come back to Shiloh and Corinth . I love both places. I was so disappointed last year to miss both of you when I was there.
Susan
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 01:38 am |
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Bama46
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I will be back in the spring..
Unless I can find a reason to go to Florence before that
Ed
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 02:25 am |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 11:03 am |
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gettysburgerrn
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That is great news.....I have never been to SHiloh, is it well preserved ? does it have many monuments?
Ken
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 12:34 pm |
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Wrap10
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Ken,
Yes, Shiloh is very well preserved, due in no small part to its relative isolation. So this grant money is really wonderful news, as it will help ensure a continuation of that, and keep the ever dreaded encroachment monster at bay.
Shiloh does have a large number of markers and monuments. I've seen some folks say that they think it actually has too many monuments, but I guess that's a matter of opinion. But it's very well marked. I think Tom and Nita could address all that better than me, but if you visit the Shiloh site on CivilWarAlbum.com, you can get a sense of the monumentation around the park from the pictures. Here's a link -
http://www.civilwaralbum.com/shiloh/index.htm
Just use the picture index on the left side of the screen.
Also the NPS site for Shiloh has some excellent information, along with some photographs -
http://www.nps.gov/shil
Hope you have a chance to visit someday. It's a beautiful park. In fact, I've sometimes told folks that Shiloh is a lot like Gettysburg, only without the town. And the crowds. 
Perry
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 03:21 pm |
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Ken,
Shiloh is one of my absolute favorite places to go bar none.
It is isolated, it is pristine, it is very much like it was in 1862 and while it can be crowded, you are just as likely to have the place pretty much to yourself. It is also accessible by boat.
It was the wilderness at the time of the battle and it pretty much preserves that flavor. Its isolation however does have one drawback. Vandalism is a big problem there, but truth told, it is a big problem everywhere.
Of all the battlefields I have visited, Shiloh does the best job of describing the action. There were 3 armies there over 2 days and the NPS has developed an excellent methhod of describing wht happened.
Blue markers designate the Army of Tennessee - Grant
Red markers designate the Army of the Mississippi - Johnston/Bureaugard
Yellow markers designate the Army of the Ohio - Buehl
In addition each is a different shape so it is easy to spot a particular army unit's position.
The markers describe the action that took place by that particular unit and identify the day and time of the action. As you read the marker, you are orientated to the same view the unit had.
There are many many monuments large and small, prominent and obscure, easily fournd and well hidden. Unlike Gettysburg, I believe the foliage si pretty much as it was and most of the roads are just paved versions of the roads that were there at the time of the battle..
Altogether a wonderful place to kill an afternoon, or the best part of a week!
Ed
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 05:06 pm |
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ArtorBart
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Probably couldn't be done, with attendant environmental and safety concerns, but having an 1862-style transport ship {stern- or side-wheel} moored at river's edge or a man-made cove nearby might be an interesting accent to a Shiloh visit.
Could Shiloh be considered one of the earliest joint operations in the ACW? Were the transports part of the USN or just privately hired or abruptly commandeered riverboats?
ArtorBart
P.S.--Beautiful national cemetery, too!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 05:54 pm |
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susansweet
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The name Shiloh means place of peace and although the battle was anything but peaceful I have found it a most peaceful place to visit. I have been there three times and usually had the place to myself. The monuments are interesting to see especially the first time when I didn't know that much about the battle. The Confederate memorial is one of my favorites . It is so full of symbolism. This is my favorite Battlefield to visit with Wilson's Creek my second favorite .
The visitors center is old. I skip the film but across the parking lot is a small newer building with tons of books. As I have said before the guy that works there is friendly. Twice now I have walked out with an armload.
Last time I stayed in Corinth and drove up to Shiloh. It felt like I was going back in time. The woods were all around . You really have to be going there to go there. You don't just discover Shiloh .
Bama I envy you your closeness to the battlefield that you can go there often. I would if I could.
Susan
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 06:07 pm |
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Dixie Girl
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ive never been anywhere except for Fort Fisher and Fort Macon. would love to go to Shiloh and i hope some day i will.
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War Means Fighting And Fighting Means Killing - N. B. Forrest
When war does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Stonewall Jackson
Sic Semper Tyrannis - John Wilkes Booth
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 09:57 pm |
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Bama46
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Susan,
I am 452 miles away as I write this.. my birthplace, family home, and my emotional home is Florence, AL. Florence is only about 40 miles from Shiloh. I own property just off the river that is 10 miles or less from shiloh by river. I go there regularly to fish, to wander the river, to visit family and to go to Shiloh. I say emotional home because I have not lived there in 52 years, but the night before I return, I am like a little kid at Christmas, I can't sleep because I am going HOME! tho I plan to leave about 4:00 or 4:30 AM, usually I am on the road by 3:00 or so..
to answer ARTorBart, to create a manmade 'harbor' for replica paddlewheelers would be a sacrilidge (MHO). Pittsburg landing takes its name because there was a road that came close to a clearing along the river close to where some people lived. Packet boats would stop on a schedule to deliver mail and goods, as well as pick up goods to take to market. The boat pulled up to the bank (landing) tied up, pushed over a gangplank and did business...no docks, no structures to impede the river jsut a very imformal safe place to tie up. There are still informal boat landings all up and down the river used by local folk to launch fishing and other small boats.. I put in at a local boat landing called Panther Creek on the Alabama side. I have been using that landing for my entire life and my grandparents before that..
I am fairly certain the Tigress was not manned by USN sailors, but don't know about the gunboats that harrassed the confederates that night.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 11:08 pm |
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ole
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Whose boats? The USN was heavy in the movement, but there had to have been some hired civilian barges and smaller scuttles just to move the enormous amounts of men and materiel required.
Got to agree with Bama; a period boat tied up at the landing would be adding a Disney touch to an otherwise pristine field. (Which is not to say that there oughtn't be one there now and then.)
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Bama46
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The Delta Queen plies the river from time to time..
She is the only wooden hulled sternwheeler in the world. She operates by a special act of congress.
I have been on her, never sailed on her, but one day...Last edited on Wed Oct 1st, 2008 01:26 am by
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ole
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Me too. One day, the availability of coin and time are going to coincide.
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susansweet
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Is the Delta Queen still going to be operating next year? I have heard that it is not not going to because all wooden paddlewheels are going to be banned. Several friends have taken the tour. The Delta in Delta Queen is the Sacramento Delta as the Delta Queen use to ply the waters of the Sacramento river here in California.
Susan
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Congress has been giving 2 year extentions for the past 30 years or so.. so far as I am aware, she is still going strong.. hopefully for a long long time..she is really something special
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susansweet
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I checked and Congress did not give them an extention this year . They are folding after October .
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