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| Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 06:11 pm |
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David White
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Well I'm pumped up. I need to take some vacation and I decided to go see the CW sites I have never seen before. It's odd because they are among the closest to me. My plan is to leave here a week from Friday, drive to Fort Worth and see the new Civil War museum there. Then it will be up to Springfield, MO on Saturday. Imagine my delight when I saw the news article about the Chili dinner and moonlight tour at Wilson's Creek that night when I get there. I know what I'll be doing now that night. I'll get to check out Wilson's Creek, Newtonia, Pea Ridge, Prairie Grove and Ft. Smith over the next three days. On the way home I'll stop at Honey Springs in Oklahoma.
Besides the obvious battlefield/national parks is there anything else I need to see?
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 06:35 pm |
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izzy
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You may want to bypass Newtonia. Not much to see there and it got wiped out by a tornado this spring.
Try Carthage MO instead. http://www.carthage-mo.gov/
And/or Baxter Springs KS http://www.baxtersprings.us/
Baxter Springs has a wonderful museum. I always wondered how control of the territory was regained after the war. In the Baxter Springs museum is part of the answer. They have saved a chunk of the big old hanging tree.
Carthage does not have a driving tour brochure. I had to buy the book "The Battle of Carthage by Hinze and Farnham to get a description of the battle at the museum. I shelled out the money. I didn't drive 1000 miles to suddenly become cheap.
Have a great time. You're going to love it.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 06:39 pm |
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javal1
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See David, tried to warn you that this retirement thing was gonna be expensive!  Seriously though the previous poster has a good point regarding Newtonia - won't be much to see unless you just want to check out the lay of the land. If Fort Scott isn't too far out of your way, stop there. Really enjoyed my visit there. Have a ball!
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 06:56 pm |
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David White
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Thanks for the suggestions Izzy and Javal, so the Ritchey Mansion at Newtonia is not worth the stop? I was curious to see it, because our roundtable is planning a dinner in the spring to raise money to help repair the roof damaged in the storm. Last edited on Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 06:56 pm by David White
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 07:07 pm |
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javal1
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It's not that it's not worth it DW, but that it was severely damaged during the rash of tornadoes earlier in the year. Doubt it's open.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 08:10 pm |
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susansweet
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David when you go to Honey Springs make sure you are not there on a Monday when the small visitors center is closed. I of course was there in the pouring rain on Monday.
David there are not many signs pointing your way to Honey Springs it is way out of town. Just keep going . You will also go by the birthplace of John Hope Franklin. Historian. The Militant South was one of the first books I read on the Civil War during my college years. It is still on my shelf.
The battlefield is interesting to see. I didn't see much because of the pouring rain but I was impressed with what they are doing there.
Have a great trip. I saw the Wilson Creek Chili dinner listed and though what fun wish I was in Springfield . I love Wilson Creek . It is one of my favorite battlefields.
Susan
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 08:26 pm |
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izzy
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David - I hope you planned on taking some time off after this CW tour. Caution! You are entering a battlefield rich environment: exhaustion will ensue! I was surprised by the number of hard fought battles in that area. I bet this turns out to be the first of many return trips to that area. I'm jealous. Really jealous.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 10:43 pm |
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Captain Crow
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David White wrote: Well I'm pumped up. I need to take some vacation and I decided to go see the CW sites I have never seen before. It's odd because they are among the closest to me. My plan is to leave here a week from Friday, drive to Fort Worth and see the new Civil War museum there. Then it will be up to Springfield, MO on Saturday. Imagine my delight when I saw the news article about the Chili dinner and moonlight tour at Wilson's Creek that night when I get there. I know what I'll be doing now that night. I'll get to check out Wilson's Creek, Newtonia, Pea Ridge, Prairie Grove and Ft. Smith over the next three days. On the way home I'll stop at Honey Springs in Oklahoma.
Besides the obvious battlefield/national parks is there anything else I need to see?
Since your in the area anyway go ahead and complete your Indian territory experience by checking out Ft. Gibson and the Cabin creek battlefield as well. They're both within an hour or two's drive from Honey springs. By the way Honey Springs is having their reenactment this coming weekend. It only happens every three years. Also you may want to check out the Oklahoma Historical Society's museum and research center in Oklahoma City as well as the 45th Infantry museum-which has an excellent firearms collection as well as the Mosby cannon.
regardless of where you go have a great time!
Cap'n
Last edited on Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 10:44 pm by Captain Crow
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 11:09 pm |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 11:16 pm |
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pamc153PA
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I second that, Clewell! 
C'mon, David. Come on East--apparently this retirement thing means you have all the time in the world, at least that's what my folks like to tell me!
Actually, wherever you end up, have a ball!!
Pam
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 11:03 am |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 11:58 am |
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susansweet
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Well you work for 30 years or more and make sure you have enough money put away. Then sign up. What's funny is you find you can't remember how you had time to work if you keep busy .
Susan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 04:21 pm |
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David White
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PFFTTTT, The east, been there done that, got the T-shirt.
Capt. Crow thanks for the Ft. Gibson suggestion, that is where one of my ancestors trained as part of Sul Ross' 9th Texas Cav, so I'll have to see that. Didn't know there was anything there. He saw the elephant at Pea Ridge so that's another reason I'm excited to finally go there.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28th, 2008 03:05 pm |
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Wrap10
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Sounds like a great trip, David. Don't want to overwhelm you with information, but here are a few links that might be helpful...
Photo album of Fort Gibson from CivilWarAlbum.com -
http://www.civilwaralbum.com/indian/fortgibson1.htm
Fort Gibson National Cemetery is nearby. Both my parents are buried there.
A web site for Honey Springs, including directions on how to reach the battlefield from I-40 -
http://www.honeysprings.org/content/home/index.html
The web site for the 45th Infantry museum in OKC -
http://www.45thdivisionmuseum.com/
Across the street from this museum is the old Union Soliders Cemetery.
And if you still have time for any non-CW site trips, you might consider the Will Rogers museum in Claremore, and the former Cowboy Hall of Fame in OKC -
http://www.willrogers.com/
http://www.nationalcowboymuseum.org/
Rogers is buried on the museum grounds there in Claremore, and the house where he was born, moved from its original site, is only a few miles down the road.
Lots of other good places to visit, which is the problem. Any of them can take up the better part of a day all by themselves. Enjoy your trip though. It sounds great.
Perry
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28th, 2008 03:33 pm |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 05:43 pm |
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Southern Son
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Hey Dave, you could stay at Orange Hill. There are several battlefields close to us such as Malvern Hill and Ft Pocahontas
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 07:07 pm |
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David White
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Looks like Cabin Creek will be a stop too if I don't linger too long at Ft. Gibson and Honey Springs.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 07:54 pm |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 02:17 pm |
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David White
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JDC:
Planning on it, thanks to everyone for the great links and tips, I just about have this thing jam packed and planned. Thought I might be getting home early next Wednesday, now it's going to be late.
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Southern Son
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Oh dave, in Arizona there was a small skirmish between Federal and Reb forces. Its at uhhhh..... oh man my mind went blank and i cant rememeber. I think it Mt. Something. So much for helpin out dave. SORRRY
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