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| Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2009 08:47 pm |
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IronSiderMan Member
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it didn't do very well at the box office, that's mostly the reason why "The Last Full Measure" was never turned into a movie. personally, i liked Gods&Generals, as well as "Gettysburg"...both were good movies.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 7th, 2009 10:23 am |
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ashbel Member
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At the urging of the historian for the movie Gods and Generals I purchased the DVD. Big mistake. It is slow. It is long. I have watched it three times (I keep hoping it will get better.) Each time I find myself muttering: "this is terrible." The scene of Jackson on his deathbed is not sad. It is sappy. NPS historian Frank O'Reilly does a far better job in his minute by minute narrative of the death of Jackson.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 7th, 2009 08:38 pm |
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IronSiderMan Member
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has anyone tried to write a script for "The Last Full Measure"? i'd be interested in helping to write one, if anyone else has an iterest
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| Posted: Sun Jun 7th, 2009 11:30 pm |
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borderuffian Member 
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Both Gods and Generals and Gettysburg were box-office bombs. G&G made 13 mil and cost 56 mil to make. G'burg made 11 mil and cost 25 mil. And both were too long- G&G-231 min. G'burg-261 min. I don't consider either to be great movies but I appreciate that someone bothered to make them.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 03:16 am |
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Basiliximab Member
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IronSiderMan wrote: has anyone tried to write a script for "The Last Full Measure"? i'd be interested in helping to write one, if anyone else has an iterest I'm all for writing scripts, and believe that I may be able to help out best in that area; however, I like the idea that Swanny mentioned, about re-doing Gods and Generals. Swanny wrote: But first, re-edit Gods and Generals re-release it- add the Antietam scenes in it, take some of the focus off Jackson and give it to Lee-take out the PC crap and speeches. What happened to the friendship between Hancock and Armistead before the war? I am all for doing something like this; your ideas sound promising. Swanny wrote: And get a younger John Bell Hood for Pete's sake the man was in his mid to late thirty's, not an old man. Thank you! I had always hoped that someone else besides me noticed this (and was bothered by it). I cannot remember the actor they had play him in G&G (it wasn't the same one as they had in Gettysburg, was it??), but I was absolutely appalled by their choice of the actor to play Hood in Gettysburg--they made it seem like he was 50+ or something when in actuality he was in his early 30's (31 if I'm not misremembering). Very upsetting. Swanny wrote: Every movies starts in someone's head as a dream and with some courage and push and a little bit of luck and a lot of money it gets made. Why not campaign to try to get this movie made. And made right! If Turner owns it and wants to finance it, why not try to push to get the right people to make it? I am all for working with a group of people to help get this job accomplished. I know that for many of us--perhaps all of us--our schedules may not allow us much time for this; but if this is truly a dream of ours, I believe we will be able to get it done no matter the obstacles. I cannot tell you of the passion that comes with creativity, of having something that originates in your mind be manifest before you by your own hand; I have written but two novels and there is simply no words to describe the feelings that came with the act of writing these stories. These were the only times in my life where I felt I had truly lived. Anyway, if anything ever comes of this, I would want nothing more than to help in any way I can.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 8th, 2009 04:08 am |
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OVVI Member
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While it is wonderful to dream, the reality is that film making is a business and unless your dream project can find backers that think it can make money, you are wasting your time. You all need to let LFM go. The disaster of GAG has made it hard enough to get a CW film made, so suggesting a remake or finishing the trilogy only puts the memory of Maxwell's failure front and center. If you wish to try a screenplay about the CW, pick a battle and read everything you can about it. There are great stories to be told from the Generals down to the men in the ranks. Compelling characters that audiences care about are what make films work. Look at Glory. Not the most historically accurate film ever made, but the characters draw you into the film and we are want to see what happens to them. I have long tossed around an idea of a film focused on what happens after a battle with a main character based lossley on Alexander Gardner. Imagine Sharpsburg or Gettysburg when the fighting stops..who cleans up the mess? An interesting subject, at least to me. Kent Dorr
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| Posted: Tue Jun 16th, 2009 04:28 pm |
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MsgRet Member
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I saw G and G with both of my sons. I was constantly briefing them on the time lapses and chronology of the movie(like the whole peninsula campaign and Jackson's valley campaign). As for the way the people talked at that time one only needs to read Longstreet's book and the way he writes to get a picture of the Victorian age. I would still like to see a production of Last Full Measure just to fulfill the trilogy. Doesn't Robert Duval direct?
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| Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2009 12:55 am |
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Irishimpny Member
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Just watched "Gods and Generals" including all of the extra segments on the DVD. I am a diehard New Yorker however for the first time I saw the "South's side" of the Civil War and found it incredible that I never learned about "the other side" until I watched this film. I've read many of the critiques of this film and probbaly don't agre with most of them. I was recommended to this book (GaG) and film years ago when Gettysburg was first out on DVD. Loved both films and Gettyburg inspired me so much that my wife and I actually went to Gettyburg Pa. on a hot July Day to see the re-enactment. There are many critiques of Gen. Thomas (Stonewall) Jackson. Many refer to him as as a religious fanatic. During the film I was touched by his love of God, his family, Virginia and his troops. Wow! One great history lesson. I found Gods and generals to be one heck of a great film. Although I enjoyed the film "Gettysburg a bit more I still found GaG to be a superb film. I finally understand how Jackson be came to be known as "Stonewall." His deep faith taught him that God had already predetermind the day and time of his death so why should he worry about such a trivial matter. His bravery deply impressed me. I should be such a man. Great web site.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2009 04:20 pm |
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Scarlett Member 
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I disagree with most of you on this board on this subject. I really loved both Gods and Generals and Gettysburg. When GAG came out in 2003 we went to see it. It was long and left you feeling sore but I thought it was well worth it. If it hadn't have been for GAG I would of never become interested in the Civil War. We went to see it again when it came to our town theater. I would agree that most young people would not find it interesting but I myself found it very entertaining even if it lacked the stuff that a lot of the shows have in them now. As for being historically accurate, (eg. Lee's beard), GAG was based on a fiction book and in such a huge movie project they may have not gotten everything just as it was in the Civil War. I don't exactly see how Maxwell is such a bad director. I thought he did a good job on both of the movies. You know you can't include everything from a 500 page novel into a 3 1/2 hour movie. If you read GAG the book Shaara says in the beginning that Maxwell encouraged him to finish the trilogy that his father had started. I am glad he did because the books are great too. I read all three in a matter of 9 months finding them hard to put down once I got started. Gettysburg I have seen more times than GAG. The only thing I don't like about it was Martin Sheen playing Lee, in my opinion Robert Duvall was a much better actor. I have not watched either for quite some time, (not since I have read the trilogy) but when I get around to I won't be falling asleep during them. I really hope they somehow make LFM. It will be really neat to see it after I have read the book, (since it didn't happen that way with the other 2). I'd love to see parts from the book acted out on screen and I'd like to have basically the same cast even if they are 10 years older. I've been wanting to write this forever. This topic is what led me to this forum and it just took me awhile to register and give my 2 cents. 
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| Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2009 11:19 pm |
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borderuffian Member
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borderuffian wrote: Both Gods and Generals and Gettysburg were box-office bombs. ...but I have read it has done very well in DVD sales and that's where the studios make their money.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 21st, 2009 11:41 pm |
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borderuffian Member
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borderuffian wrote: borderuffian wrote:Both Gods and Generals and Gettysburg were box-office bombs. Plus there are rentals, CDs, international DVD sales, etc, etc...
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 03:18 am |
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Basiliximab Member
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Irishimpny wrote: There are many critiques of Gen. Thomas (Stonewall) Jackson. Many refer to him as as a religious fanatic. During the film I was touched by his love of God, his family, Virginia and his troops. Wow! One great history lesson. I found Gods and generals to be one heck of a great film. Although I enjoyed the film "Gettysburg a bit more I still found GaG to be a superb film. I finally understand how Jackson be came to be known as "Stonewall." His deep faith taught him that God had already predetermind the day and time of his death so why should he worry about such a trivial matter. His bravery deply impressed me. I should be such a man. It may be a history lesson in some ways, but just to be sure you must remember it only represents one side of the story. Jackson was not some perfect god-like being on earth. Though his faith in God, and his love for God, his family, and his country were astounding, he also had his faults too; and I don't believe this was portrayed in the film. That's one of the things I didn't care for about G&G--it creates this fictional character out of Jackson and people who are watching the film think that's how he really was (granted, he was rather a religious fanatic and the good points about him were correct I think for the most part, but they don't see the negative attributes of his character). Actually, in my opinion, the real Jackson--the one with character flaws and all--is way more interesting than this fictional or half-true version. I often thought that his biography would make an exceptional film.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2009 04:46 am |
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Rallyonthecolors Member
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I see all the faults that you place on the film. However it is unfair to compare Gettysburg and GaG. Gettysburg the movie takes place over four days while GaG occurs from 1861-1863. I feel that Antietam would be a good addition but know that there is no way they could have added every battle into the movie. And btw who ever said that GaG was supposed to be about Jackson? Its name even says Generals. Now to what i like. I found the Fredricksburg scene very good. It is like the Picket's Charge scene in Gettysburg with how it shows the incredible courage and unwaviering devotion to country. It takes alot of guts to walk across and open field towards an enemy who is dug in behind cover. While it was long I found it good. I know that many people who don't care about history don't like this film and I can see why. What i would like to see done is a creation of the Hitorical fiction work by Newt Gingrich that attempts to answer the "what-if" Lee had listened to Longstreet and went south of the Federal lines. It offers good movies full of action and speculation. Plus these books don't take place over too long a period and this would allow for shorter and more active movies.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2009 01:40 pm |
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susansweet3 Member 
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I know that many people who don't care about history don't like this film Most of the people I know that don't like this film care very much about history. They just don't like a long boring film. Again I say . The opening was good with the music and the flags. The next best part is the scene when the screen finally says THE END
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| Posted: Sat Jul 4th, 2009 01:54 pm |
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fedreb Member 
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Susan, I have to agree with you. Cut out all the dross between those two scenes and we'd have a very short , but watchable, film
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| Posted: Sun Jul 5th, 2009 03:09 am |
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Colt1851 Member 
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I thought that parts of the movie were good - some of the battle scenes especially. I feel there was too much of the singing in the parlor stuff. One can only take so much of that. There was too much about the civilians and the interaction. I know that Jackson's reaction to the death of the little girl shows alot about his personality, but that scene and developing that story line took so much time. Another thing that I didn't like in both G&G and G'burg is that in many of the scenes, the actors looked like they were posing. They didn't always look natural.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 5th, 2009 11:22 pm |
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The Iron Duke Member 
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I was rather shocked by how old the actor that plays Walter Taylor looked.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 6th, 2009 01:42 am |
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borderuffian Member
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susansweet3 wrote: I know that many people who don't care about history don't like this film I find that where someone lives and their particular sentiments on the war usually have something to do with this view.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 02:42 pm |
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susansweet3 Member
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I don't think it matters at all where you live. I live in Southern California and have friends who are Daughters and Sons of Union and Confederate Vets. Members of both groups dislike the movie. Matter of fact the woman who first said to me the only good part of the movie was the opening Scene is a UDC and president of the Confederate Rose. So that blows that theory away. A bad movie is a bad movie Last edited on Tue Jul 7th, 2009 02:43 pm by susansweet3 |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 7th, 2009 05:00 pm |
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20th_Mass Member 
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I don't think the making of Civil War films is dead but just sleeping. I think what hurt Civil War films more than the bad editing of Gods and Generals was the sucess of Band of Brothers. BoB was so popular that it got everyone's attention back on World War 2 and now we see a lot of WWII movies being made. With the coming of the 150th anniversary of the beginning of Civil War in two years I see the tide turning back to the Civil War.
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