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| Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 06:37 pm |
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Rebel Yell
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I have enjoyed reading all the postings here and it seems that I must get to Shiloh. Thank you all for responding!!
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 08:14 pm |
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susansweet
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Rebel Yell , get yourself to Shiloh as soon as it is a nice spring day. Compared to many battlefields it is small. But there is so much there to see. There is also gasp a great bookstore next to the Visitors center. The gentleman that works there is a hoot. I have been in there twice two years apart . He remembered me the second time!!! Not by name but I realized as he chatted with me he did remember the previous conversation. When you go get one of the maps in the bookstore .
Susan
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 08:39 pm |
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Bama46
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Actually sthe bookstore has 2 full scale maps, one for each day. .they are magnificient.. and the bookstore is one of the best of the battlefield bookstores.
Ed
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 08:39 pm |
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Bama46
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Actually sthe bookstore has 2 full scale maps, one for each day. .they are magnificient.. and the bookstore is one of the best of the battlefield bookstores.
Ed
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 08:43 pm |
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susansweet
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Well drat I only got one of the maps. oh well. Bama do you know the guy I am talking about? He is a character and friendly. I have spent quite a bit of money in that bookstore in the two times I was there. The first trip to Shiloh the bookstore was closed before I got to the field.
Susan
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 10:48 pm |
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ole
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Been to Shiloh; been to Antietam. Have so far avoided G'burg, but I guess I'll have to go walk around the fast food joints to see it. But I don't think I can capture the same silence at G'burg that I got at Shiloh and Antietam. Do go by yourself or with a respectful friend. The effect is awesome.
Even the Confederate burial trenches at Shiloh will urge one to sit and think about those interred within. Nevermind the monuments. The ultimate monuments are those trenches.
ole
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 12:11 am |
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Doc C
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Barlow's Knoll, Culps Hill is fairly deserted at GB. Spent some quiet hours at both just reading.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 12:35 am |
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Lincoln Fan
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OK, you guys have convinced me I need to see Shiloh!
Tim you are very fortunate to live so close to many of the battlefields. I love to travel Virginia, especially the Richmond-Petersburg area, where so many earthworks are still visible and to me, Drewry's Bluff is a must-see.
Has anyone been to Chickamauga? It's in Chattanooga but the park itself I found to be very pristine with no commercialism
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 01:32 am |
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Doc C
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Also, Malvern Hill, Cold Harbor, Spotsylavnnia are great for solitude.
Doc C
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 02:22 am |
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Bama46
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Chicamauga is the battlefield I visited last summer on my annual battlefield trip. It is a magnificient place. I would rank it jsut slightly below Shiloh and that for me says a lot. One thing you must keep in mind when studying Chicamauga, is that it was not an officers fight. the terrain was so wooded and so close that there was no one who could get "the big picture". Decisions were made at the most basic level that decided the outcome of the battle...Gen Polk being Pokey not withstanding!
we stayed in Ringgold Ga, and had the luxury of seeing Ringgold Gap, the place wher eGen Cleborne held off the union army while the Conferates made their escape..we also went to Dalton and on down to Kennesaw Mountain. Wonderful week..
Ed
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 11:34 am |
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susansweet
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The day I went to Chickamauga was a misty day so very few people on the field. I wandered all over . It is supose to be the closest to looking like it did at the time of the battle.
At one spot there is a grave surrounded by a fence. It is the grave of a young man who lived not far away from where the battle was fought.
It ranks right up there with Shiloh as a favorite place to visit. I need to go back again and spend more time.
Susan
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 01:05 pm |
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j harold 587
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Shilo is on my to do list. I have been to Gettysburg in the spring for the last three years for the friends work day. Last fall was the first time I have been able to go to the top of the Pa. monument. The view was fantastic! With the recent removal of non-historic vegitation it is much easier to read the field. Many terrain features that were not obvious were easy to see and better interpet the movement of troops and the action. On the morning we last had a work day we parked on Confederate Ave near Longstreets statue. It was very foggy and as we walked out across the Pickett - Pettigrew advance to ourwork site It was very quiet and a little spooky. You can finde those quiet spots there but must account for season and time of day. Also If you have not done the Eisenhower farm it is well worth the time. My wife and I want to go at Christmas in the future as the home is decorated as it was when it was a presidential residence.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 01:18 pm |
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ashbel
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I'll vote for Chickamauga too! Been there twice. Despite the fact that it has a highway going through the middle of it there are plenty of places that are out of the way, serene and peaceful.
But my experience has been that if you avoid the paved "battlefield tour" and set off on foot that every battlefield of any size has plenty of serenity. I remember one visit to Antietam where I was following the route of the 30th Ohio (my wife's gggfather was in this unit). They crossed at a ford upstream from Burnside's Bridge and the path to that ford was as beautiful and peaceful as any place I have ever been on a battlefield.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 02:16 pm |
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Bama46
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Susan,
I am not sure which person you refer to in the Shiloh bookstore. Because of my hearing, I tend to avoid conversations with people whose voices I do not know. After I learn a new persons voice inflections and pronunciations and lip movements, I can converse pretty well, but intil that time, I have a devil of a time figuring out what is being said. As a result, I tend to avoid those situations when I can. when I was younger and did not know what someone was saying, I would mimick his facial expressions and body movements...you smile..I smile; You frown..I frown.. ..I have agreed to some of the strangest things that I had no idea I was agreeing to...
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 02:16 pm |
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Bama46
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deleted duplicate post
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 03:23 pm |
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David White
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Ashbel:
Well thank you kindly, I will give Dan your regards when we meet where Ashbel the first is buried next week. I've also spent a few hours in the Jewish cemetery at Vicksburg contemplating the actions of Ashbel and his men on May 22, 1863 as well.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 03:56 pm |
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susansweet
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Bama. the joy of this type of comunication You don't need to hear us. I seem to have a voice in the range that people who have hearing problems can't hear.
The guy I was referring too is young , short and wears glasses. Very friendly type and loves to chat.
Take care,
Susan
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 04:07 pm |
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Michael C. Hardy
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First battlefield visit was Olustee in 1983. I had an uncle that had gotten me into reenacting and this was my dad’s first event. It was almost his last. Some drunk climbed up into a tree with his bagpipes about 1:30 am Sunday morning not far from our tent! Needless to say, my dad saw it was something interesting, and well, twenty-five years later, he commands one of the largest groups in the southeast. Me - I’m the author of eight books and dozens of articles.
Favorite battlefields - Antietam, Shiloh, Perryville. Least favorite - Gettysburg. I’ve been to most of the battlefields in Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, and two (Lone Jack and Lexington) in Missouri.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 04:20 pm |
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ashbel
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Bama
My father lost most of his hearing when he was 11. He, like you, learned to read lips. I, in turn, learned to speak clearly and make sure he was looking at me when I was talking. One foreign exchange student who stayed with us one summer asked me: "Why do you yell at your father?"
But now that my father is 90 he has found that there is an advantage. None of his friends can hear either, but they can't read lips. So for the first time in his life people are asking him: "What did he say?"
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 04:45 pm |
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Bama46
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Ashbel, et. al..
Good for your dad!
You will find that you also read lips...everyone does to one extent or another. Over the years I have become very proficient at it, and get this...the very best lipreaders can only correctly identify 35 to 45% of the words they see.
so many words look the same on the lips..
Try this..have someone say to you without sound the word "Vacuum"...Now tell me what word(s) you read!
this will give you a small idea of how careful lip readers must be to try to get the words in context with the larger message, and that my friend, can be very difficult..almost a sdifficult as typing without misspellings!
Ed
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