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|You both make very good points and obviously you both have had some experience in the matter and the facts to back up your experiences and perceptions. I can't argue with that and I cannot claim to know the status and the political climate of the leaderships that you mention.
My experience has always been very good with members of those groups, but once again - my point of the post in the first place was the irony of it all. That the very same sacrifices that we pay tribute to (at places like Antietam) ultimately secured the freedoms of both pro- and anti-"anything" to organize a rally in the first place.