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 Posted: Wed Sep 10th, 2008 08:30 pm
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javal1 wrote: Did the civil war achieve its lofty goal of ending slavery and bringing freedom to Black Americans(Freedmen)?

You assume that was the goal. The orgins and causation of the war have been argued since 1861.


Javal1 , It may not have been the original goal but it became a driving force by the end of the war.

Like WWI did not achieve its lofty goal of ending war...

The "goal" off WW1 was not to end war. While Wilson had some hopes for the League of Nations, that's not even close to saying the goal of the war was to end war. Totally non-sensical statement.


Yeh, Javal1, but everyone remembers "The war to end all wars" -Wilson- just supporting Wilson's dream. 

 By 1879, Black Americans were being regulated into being second class citizens, by 1890 were living in an "separate but equal" world being enforced by "Jim Crow laws".

 How is this the fault of the Civil War? The people that came after the war perhaps, but that's different.


Javal1, The people that fought in that war were the people who gave segregation. They chose harmony of the union over principles. Many tried to do the right thing but were forted and labeled Scalawags, Carpetbaggers and Radicals...
The Civil War did not end slavery as to change it to Apartheid.

HUH?? You do understand the definition of apartheid right? You think that's going on here, now? That's an insult to millions of black South Africans who know what the word means.


Javal1, Apartheid is legal system of racial segregation which many would consider harsher then our American segregation but the two systems achieved the purpose they were intended to do, to oppress another race. I see no insult....

Last edited on Thu Sep 11th, 2008 11:54 am by 5fish

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