|View single post by indy19th|
|Posted: Mon Jul 24th, 2006 09:36 pm||
Like Gen. Ulysses Grant's slaves, they had to wait for the 13th Amendment, Grant explained why he didn't free his slaves earlier, saying, "Good help is so hard to come by these days." (source: http://www.civilwarhome.com/blacks.htm)
That quote is dubious at best. It just gets passed on from website to website. It's no more reliable than the one where he supposedly said that if he thought the war was about ending slavery, he'd have thrown down his sword and joined the Confederacy.
March 29 1859: Despite the financial troubles of the Grant family, there is one remedy Grant refuses to consider. He sets free his slave, William Jones, who had come to him through his wife's family.
My point is. as you well state, that Lincoln never freed the slaves with his Emancipation Proclamation. It took this amendment that did not go into effect until he was dead. Lincoln never freed the slaves as Northern history tells the proclamation did.
I never said that ALL the slaves were freed by the Emancipation. (It did free SOME slaves though.) Don't you think that you are splitting hairs here? Somehow, I don't see how it was Lincoln's fault that he was no longer alive when the states ratified the 13th amendment. It was voted in favor of by Congress while he was still alive. Since 11 states were no longer in the Union, and they wouldn't have voted for it during the war, it took until after the war to get the required 27 of 36 states to ratify it. I think when we point out that Lincoln was dead by the time it passed, we really have run out of things to complain about him.
What does Congress not being in session have to do with Lincoln suspending the Habeas Corpus since as Marshall's ruling clear states he had no power to do it. By an ex post facto action this does not make what Lincoln did legal making it a very relevant point. He also denied Maryland, for the duration of the war its' rightfully elected govenment.
Evidently you're overrating this ruling from 1803 as I've not seen it mentioned as the end all be all of whether or not the President can't suspend Habeas.
This shows that Lincoln was racist and did not care if the slaves were free in his lifetime and that he want to have the Negro out of the U.S. Lincoln did not care about the slave only saving the Union. Read his letter to Horace Greeley. (source: http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/greeley.htm) The fact is that Lincoln never knew the slaves were free from their masters, which did not mean they had or enjoyed freedom.
Shows that he was racist? I don't even know where to begin with discussing this. There's so many different directions to go here, that I'm not even going to bother.