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| Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 06:52 pm |
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20th_Mass Member 
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It doesn't matter how good the acting or the directing is, if you have a movie about war then it has to be about the war. Confederate officers singing hymns with that southern family and ridiculous monlogues does not fit into a "war" movie. The next Civil War movie should be about the enlisted men struggling through the war and showing there hardships. That is why Battleground is one of my favorite movies because it is about a group of soldiers struggling through the hardships of the Battle of the Bulge in harsh conditions not officers at some party trying to impress generals.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 08:58 pm |
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susansweet3 Member 
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I agree Coly,It does have to be about war and about the common soldier . Gettysburg worked because it was about fighting .
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| Posted: Mon Jan 18th, 2010 11:20 pm |
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Mark Member
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I'm not sure I agree with the last two posts. A film about the Civil War can touch on important issues and be successful without being directly about the military aspects. For example, there was very little actual combat in "Glory." "Little Women" was also good and not directly about the fighting. And though I didn't like the movie or the book, "Cold Mountain" was also fairly successful. I'm no film maker, but I think a good movie must have characters that the viewers care about, a struggle against the odds in a fast moving plot line. The ACW is full of possibilities in those respects and not all of them revolve around the "common solider" and combat. -Mark
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19th, 2010 09:38 am |
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susansweet3 Member
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Little Women is more about the girls growing up than the Civil War . Funny it is my favorite book from childhood and until recently I didn't think of it as a Civil War book or movie . Glory is in a class by itself. It is a different type of battle , the battle to be accepted to prove that the black man would and could fight. Cold Mountain? After the Crater scene the only good thing about the movie is Renee's acting . Oh and the singing in the church.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 23rd, 2010 02:13 pm |
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Analyst Member
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Gettysburg was tolerable. The acromyn for "Gods and Generals" seems quite appropriate. Analyst
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| Posted: Tue Feb 9th, 2010 05:22 am |
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Mr Al Member
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I have read through the posts on this thread and am amazed at the general negativity directed at God's and Generals. This is a pretty historically accurate film-even though it is in fact based on a novel which presupposes at least some dramatic license. the difficulty with a historically accurate film about 19th century people is it may in fact seem slow and stilted. People in that era DID speak that way and did reference God often. this seems HOKEY to 21st century minds. Surprise. It is somewhat refreshing to me. What's stupider-authentic 19th century thought patterns as displayed in God's and Generals or 21st century obsessions with George Washington's hemp business and Thomas Jefferson's relationship with Sally Hemmings? Just another angle.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11th, 2010 10:27 pm |
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ole Member 
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Only one angle, Mr. Al: boxoffice. Nobody pays to see authentic 19th Century thought patterns unless they're not boring. Did you see the John Adams series on the history channel? Authentic 18th Century thought patterns without being tedious. It probably helped that the series was chopped up into bite-sized pieces. Anyone who stirs up some give and take is always welcome to the board. Ole
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12th, 2010 04:27 am |
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csamillerp Member 
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My dad took me to see gettysburg back in 93 and my life hasn't been the same. is was that movie that got me into the civil war. ever since then i cant learn enough about it. God's and Generals was a great movie but it skipped way to much history. Like what happened to Antietam or second manassas. The movie Glory was an amazing movie if whoever produces the last full measure should take a look at glory.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12th, 2010 05:27 pm |
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smnptrout Member
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In order to have a great film you have to have a great director,great cinematographer,great set design,assertive technical advisors,a great script,realism-realism-realism,a musical score that's is minimal but with simple themes,not boringly dramatic and emotional.I had mixed feelings about Gettysburg,Jeff Daniels was the best,along with the little round top sequence.Maxwell's direction was at best average,it was not cinematic,it had the look of a TV miniseries,but that aside it was ok.I waited for God's and Generals,a more complex saga that took covered lot's of ground.As I watched it in a local theatre,and I saw the Stonewall Brigade in formationand I saw Jackson riding in front of a group of overweight reenactors who want for us to beleive they are the Stonewall Brigade,I found myself becoming a little aggrevated.By the time it ended I was downright contemptuous of Maxwell,and the whole project.There are reasons why some movies lose money.In GandG's case it was because it was(is) a bad movie.Good movies usually make money,for a Civil War epic to make money it will have to be innovative,real,and great,it has to tell a story that gets envisioned then told to you with imagry so memorable it'll reach out and get you,take you in,so it's hard to take your eyes off the screen and when it's over you still see the images like they've been branded into your brain making the whole movie very sublime.Guys like Kubrick and David Lean understood epic making,Lean did it in Lawrence of Arabia,Kubrick in Full Metal Jacket.Maxwell does not understand movie viewers nowadays are slaves to detail,so seeing reenactors running for their lives,smiling,self concious,makes it all an insult,and embarrassing to watch.It's all about money(Ted Turner),throwing your mind and soul into the hope of making a enduring work of art for generations to come(Ted Turner) then loosing it all ,then stopping it all,because the film realized was fake-ish and tired,don't blame Ted Turner,don't blame anyone... cinema history takes care of that.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12th, 2010 05:42 pm |
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smnptrout Member
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buy the way,there's a director's cut out there somewhere,almost 5 hours long,guess it has the antietam stuff in it,this could be a better version
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| Posted: Fri Feb 12th, 2010 06:28 pm |
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ole Member
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My definition of a good movie: It is one you can't tear yourself away from long enough to get a beer or hit the head. "Gettysburg" and "Glory" were two. Somewhere in this mess is the director's cut of "Gettysburg." Of course, it's easy to lay my hands on "G&G." Looks like I lost the wrong one. Ole
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13th, 2010 10:14 pm |
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tcb816 Member
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Ted Turner let his option lapse.The rights to book THE LAST FULL MEASURE is now own by Jeff Shaara. You can learn more about this at http://www.jeffshaara.com. It is a very good book. I hope this helps. AARON YATES
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| Posted: Wed Mar 3rd, 2010 01:37 am |
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Mr Al Member
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In the final analysis you guys are by definition correct. the fact is these films MUST make money or at least break even. Had this film been profitable and well-received "Last Full Measure" would be a more probable project. I believe this film had the most dramatic potential so its a shame it will probably never get made. I bought a theater ticket but the mass appeal was not there. I then thought that a less politically involved Director than Maxwell might have been better suited, but it scares the hell out of me what some good directors may have done to the history. Maybe Mel Gibson is the only one who could have pulled this off. 
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| Posted: Wed Mar 3rd, 2010 01:01 pm |
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smnptrout Member
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AL-THE MEL GIBSON IDEA IS INTERESTING,TO SAY THE LEAST,AFTER ALL,GIBSON SUCCEEDED IN MAKING THE DEFINITIVE MOVIE ON THE CRUCIFICTION.gEORGE STEVENS,ORSON WELLES AND BUNCHES OF OTHER GREAT DIRECTOR'S FAILED GRANDLY WITH THEIR VERSIONS OF THE DEATH OF JESUS.gIBSON SAID IN AN INTERVIEW RECENTLY THAT HE MAY HAVE ONE MORE MOVIE LEFT IN HIM(AS A DIRECTOR-PRODUCER)IF HE COULD FIND A SUITABLE SUBJECT.DIRECTING A MOVIE MUST BE A KILLER,K. COSTNER SAID "OPEN RANGE"EXHAUSTED HIM TO A NEAR NERVOUS BREAKDOWN.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2010 03:31 am |
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19bama46 Member
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Miss Susan, I don't think we could kill this thread with a stake and a hammer..... it truly is the "Thread too tough to die" Ed
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| Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2010 04:10 am |
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susansweet3 Member
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Bama I think you are right. It will not die . NOR will it ever be made into a movie !!!!
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| Posted: Mon May 17th, 2010 01:39 am |
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bolaman1975 Member
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that would be interesting if Stanley Kubrick was able to had made the Last full measure....Private Pyle whatever you do don't charge up that hill is would break my heart to see you killed by canister rounds...........lmao.
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| Posted: Thu May 27th, 2010 01:47 am |
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MattBurchfield Member
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There's all sorts of issues going on with LFM, which is a shame because it is a very filmic novel, amazingly so even. I'd like to say more based on some of my dealings with the folks involved, but I digress. I will say that Mr. Shaara is a great guy. This doesn't mean we can't have another movie about the end of the war though.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24th, 2010 08:27 am |
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CameronsHighlander Member
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HonestlyI would much rather see the directors cut of Gods and Generals before ever seeing Last Full Measure. The original of Gods and Generals left a lot to be desired and from what I heard about the Directors cut some scenes were cut out. The Battle of Antietiam (Jacksons POV and Chamberlains hand burning incident), Scenes featuring Actor John Wilkes Booth meeting Joshua and Fannie Chamberlain after the Play Julius Caeser where he plays Brutus, and a Scene where Booth refuses to meet Lincoln in Washington after another Shakespere play. If they ever make Last Full Measure I think it would be cheaper to just splice the Crater Scenes from Cold Mountain, but the Prospects do not look good toward having it made anytime soon maybe after the 150's you just might see it and if we do Donald Sutherland needs to play Beauguard it would pull in the Movie the Hunley Last edited on Thu Jun 24th, 2010 08:39 am by CameronsHighlander |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 24th, 2010 05:45 pm |
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blueshawk1 Member 
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There is a thread about this under General Discussion where I just posted this earlier today; A friend of mine, on one of his visits to Gettysburg, Jeff Shaara was there signing books. My friend asked him if "Last Full Measure" was going to be made into a movie, and Jeff replied that Turner had no intention of making that last movie because they lost too much money on "Gods and Generals".
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