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Thanks for posting that.  Looks interesting. 

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I just love the idea of the Tennessee Civil War Sesquicentennial license plate. It is very well designed. It is quite late, but I wonder if there would be any way to get the state of Florida to have a similar commemorative plate. We have so many special plates in Florida, I doubt the legislature or DMV would consider yet another one. STill it would be a wonderful thought.

Some people may think Florida had little to do with the Civil War, but Floridians fought in the Army of Northern Virginia and fought at Gettysburg among other notable battles. Florida also shipped much food to the Army of Tennessee because other Southern states, especially occupied ones could not raise enough food for the army and civilians both.  

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Is Tennessee the only state with a plate like that?



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I don't know. It certainly seems as if Pennsylvania, Virginia, South Carolina and Georgia should have such plates at the very least. Actually every state that saw any battles or skirmishes in the war should have such a plate, but I wonder if TN is the only one so far. I'm really glad folks in that state were on the ball. I wonder who got the ball rolling and what they had to do to get the plate accepted by the Powers That Be in TN.

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http://battleoffranklin.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/from-mystery-to-history-the-story-of-gen-patrick-r-cleburne%E2%80%99s-once-lost-pistol/



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Iron Duke, thank you for that link. What a fascinating thing to see Cleburne's actual pistol and kepi! The kepi, by the way, is far nicer than I would have imagined. I can't describe the feeling of seeing Cleburne's name imprinted on the pistol.

I have printed out the entire story to put in my favorite book about Cleburne. It will be a valuable addition to the book. I wish I could go see this display. Are these items still at Carnton or have they gone elsewhere? My printed version did not show the pistol and kepi in such sharp detail as luck would have it.

By the way what an excellent web site that is! I have marked it as a favorite place.

Maybe I could persuade Hubby to go on a fall tour of the Nashville area, a place we enjoyed so much when we lived there and like fools never once looked into the incredible history. Oh well, it was a very different time of our lives. Now I really want to return with "new eyes" and visit Franklin, Carnton, Carter House, and then Stone's River in Murfreesboro...maybe even venture over to SHiloh. Hubby is just not as interested in history as I am, but he does love Nashville in the fall and spring. 

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Cleburne's kepi and pistol were on display at Carnton for just the one week in June.  I, along with Joanna Stephens, worked for nearly 8 months to get the two items together at the same time.  It was indeed a treat as we believe it the first time the two had been together since Cleburne's death.  Wait till you see what we have planned for the 150th anniversary!!!!

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Please consider donating to Franklin's Charge.  We just purchased a single acre across Columbia Pike from the Carter House for $900,000.  Big price, but that ground saw several Congressional Medals won and thousands of men engaged in some of the most brutal fighting of the war.  Franklin's Charge also spearheaded the movement to buy the 110 acres near Carnton for $5 million to prevent it from being developed.  Over that ground Gen. W. W. Loring's Division advanced toward the Federal left flank on November 30, 1864.

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Good work!

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Great news thanks for sharing. By the Way Eric - great book "For Cause and Country" I enjoyed it very much..

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Thanks for the nice comment about my book!!

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Don't know when I'll get back to Franklin, but enjoyed the hospitality there in 2000. The 1-acre property referred to -- was that near the Lotz House museum? Got to stick my nose inside there back then. Found the McGavock cemetery a very calming place, even tho kids were screaming as they jumped off the diving board at the country club right next door. Was that part of the golf club that's closing down? Hope so! Will enjoy seeing how the Eastern Flank gets interpreted.
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Franklin and the State seem to have awakened. The primary battlefield itself is covered with light industrial. The focus, The Carter House, is marvelously maintained and I hear that part of the Carter Garden has been purchased.

Standing on the Winstead Hill markers, you look over a sea of pre-fab steel buildings, but if your imagination works, you can see fields and scattered farm buildings en route to Carter's Gin and where the Union works were.

The former Pizza Hut is approximately where Cleburne fell. (Haven't seen many agree on the exact spot.) And the former golf course/country club, with Carnton, are the grounds across which Hood's right flank traversed.

Ft. Granger itself is preserved nicely and, standing there, you can clearly see Winstead Hill (again over the sea of metal-roofed buildings) and much of the ground over which all of Hood's forces advance.

If you're looking for pristine battlefields, Franklin isn't it; but the City has made a good start, and it is easy enough to visualize movements.

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JDC  on the spot where Cleburne fell is now a monument.  There is a split rail fence around the area .  In the middle is the stack of cannon balls.   Much nicer than the Pizza Hut.  Now the Dominos pizza is across the street and as Tom Cartwright said to us last year . It should never have been built. 

I had a very emotional moment at the site where Cleburne died last year.  Glad to see he is finally honored there. 

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Awesome video, Iron Duke. I marked it as a favorite. The speaker talks so fast, I will have to listen to him a few times to catch all of what he said. I love the way he is so emotional. He makes the battle come alive.

Last edited on Wed Sep 24th, 2008 12:16 am by CleburneFan

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That is Thomas Cartwright. He recently resigned as director of the Carter House at Franklin.



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