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 Posted: Fri Dec 5th, 2008 02:32 am
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I hope something does come along in the same vein as the Ken Burns series. In the meantime, I suppose I, like everyone else, will do what I can.

Hope you don't mind that I've reversed your statements. That is exactly where I come out of the rat hole. Ken Burns did more for the interest in the USCW than "The Battle Cry of Freedom." A few more of those kinds of things could only be good.

I mean no disrespect to nature or to nature lovers. I shouldn't have said that. Heck, I live in Colorado for a reason. My frustration comes from the fact that I found Pamplin to be an awesome place. I had a great time there, plan to return, and have a lot of admiration for the people that run it and work there. I hope this re-structure does not hurt these people too bad.

I'm figuring I didn't make my intentions plain. In this grand landscape, there are far too many magnificent things to see to expect that a Pamplin is going to gain much attention. Just the sight of the Big Horn Range from Buffalo, Wyoming makes me weak in the knees. And the Big Horns, in the big picture, are in the peanut gallery. The trail through Lodi. The Road to the Sun.

I'm with you in lamenting that deserving attention to history is lamentably neglected, but it is understandable.

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 Posted: Fri Dec 5th, 2008 02:41 am
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I think my post about Burns's WWII series was unclear. I was referring to how he got accused of being a racist because there were no interviews with Latino veterans.



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 Posted: Fri Dec 5th, 2008 03:02 am
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Duke: It doesn't much matter what anyone says; someone is going to claim it is racist.

Where have all the flowers gone? Gone to the graveyards, every one. When will we ever learn? When will we ever learn?

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 Posted: Fri Dec 5th, 2008 05:16 am
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Tim didn't you see me out there celebrating Lewis and Clark?
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 Posted: Fri Dec 5th, 2008 06:38 am
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ole wrote: As a matter of curiosity, have you seen our Yellowstone, or Yosemite, or Glacier National Parks?
Not yet, sadly. I'd love to go hiking there though (hmm...might start suggesting it to my usual hiking pals)

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 Posted: Fri Dec 5th, 2008 12:10 pm
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I didn't know that was you, Susan, or I would have walked over and said hello.

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 Posted: Fri Dec 5th, 2008 03:13 pm
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Not yet, sadly. I'd love to go hiking there though (hmm...might start suggesting it to my usual hiking pals)
Are you a serious hiker? That is, a backpacker who can carry a week in your back-pack? There are still a few places where you are required to check into a ranger station with a declaration of when you are coming out. (That's so if you don't come out on schedule, they can send a crew in to look for you.) And, yes, most of them are in grizzly country.

In my best days, I wouldn't even think of carrying a 120 pound back-pack into the wilderness. But whatever floats your boat, I guess. But there is something appealing about hiking through territory that may have never have had a human footprint on it.

If you're into only day trips, a really serious hike is down the Angel Trail in the Grand Canyon. Standing on the rim (with binoculars) you can barely see the Colorado River way down there. The main idea is to walk down there, which is relatively easy, but the walk back must be a killer. The declination is about a mile in about 20. (Can't remember if it's 17 or 27 miles one way.) If you can do that, you're a better man than I am.

There are so many incredibly awesome places to visit on this continent. Fortunately, they are so nasty that they're in no danger of development, but do consider visiting one or two while you still have your vitality.

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 Posted: Sat Dec 6th, 2008 12:21 am
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In the east don't forget the Appalachian Trail.  It runs from Georgia to Maine.  Just in my area alone, Western North Carolina, there are about a million acres of national forest with tons of trails.  There are black bears rather than grizzlys.  Or if you prefer to drive, take the Blue Ridge Parkway.

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 Posted: Sat Dec 6th, 2008 02:09 pm
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Forgot that one, izzy. Were I 40 again, that would top the list of things to do. Although walking from Georgia to Maine has a certain appeal, precious few can do that. Maybe just the Georgia through Tennessee part?

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Are you a serious hiker? That is, a backpacker who can carry a week in your back-pack?

I'd like to think I am, but I've not done it like that for years. The appeal of a cosy pub or good meal at the end of a day (not to mention a shower) tend to mean that my friends and I go for long day hikes and stay in one location. But the idea of doing it properly again awakens my latent boy scout tendencies.

Izzy - I've often thought about the AT. When I was hiking in the Shenandoah last year we kept on crossing it so I reckon I've completed around 0.003%. There are some long-distance trails in Britain and on the continent (especially the old pilgrimage routes) which I've thought about.

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 Posted: Sat Dec 6th, 2008 05:50 pm
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I'm supposing that, on the continent, there are some rather primitive trails to hike along. But if you haven't hiked the AT, or Angel Trail, or the Idaho Wilderness, you don't qualify. (I've done none of those things, therefore, I don't qualify either. But I have a weak back and an achy, breaky heart.) My recliner and a beer is about the extent of my adventure these days.

But I can and do talk about them. Endlessly.

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Hey guys i would just like to say i was recently at Pamplin Park and I brought up the ? to one of their employees and they said it is only going to be like this probably until March or April becuase of the economy (and during that time you have to make reservations with a group of 10 or more so it is not officially closed during the couple month period and also if you're a season pass holder than you can go too) ....but they are definately going to reopen the park to anyone by summer so don't worry

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 Posted: Mon Jan 5th, 2009 11:07 pm
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Welcome to the board Civil War Guy. That's good info to hear - thanks for that.

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 Posted: Mon Jan 5th, 2009 11:10 pm
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Really good to hear. It's not easy to get to Pamplin from Colorado, but I sure enjoy the park every time I have been there.

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