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 Posted: Fri Jan 16th, 2009 03:02 am
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Maryland Public TV is reruning this series tonight. Just noticed that in the portion on Antietam while discussing the sunken road the majority of pictures were of the cornfield and hagerstown pike. Not a major mistake but it did bother me a bit. Any other comments or misques noted in this series?

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 Posted: Fri Jan 16th, 2009 04:35 am
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From what little I can recall, Doc, the entire series was littered with such annoying little inaccuracies. But we're a tough crowd, and the series almost single-handedly stirred up renewed interest in our favorite subject.

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I bought it on DVD and love just listening to it as background noise. The back to back biopics of Grant and Lee is probably my favorite part of the series. I thought the Antietam section was one of the best done parts of the film.

My only quibbles are that there is too much Gettysburg and Barbara Fields.



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Well I do know it inspired a thread on here a few weeks ago with the thread about the photograph that looked like it was Stonewall Jackson in the field. Burns used that photo while talking about him a couple of times in the series so it is no wonder people think it is him.

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I could listen to Shelby Foote's stories all day long. His voice was perfect for the subject and his obvious love of the subject matter were highlights for me.
I missed an opportunity to meet him shortly before his death and I will regret it for the rest of my days.

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I can only remember two times that I HAD to be in front of the television for a mini-series. The first time was "Roots". The only other time was for this Ken Burns series. This series rekindled a latent love for history, and specifically the Civil War. Without this series, I would never have found the time to visit Shiloh, which led me to believe that I could draw a map better than anything that the park had available. The result can be debated, but I alternately bless and curse this series for the way it changed my life.

I can overlook the minor issues for what the entire production succeeded with.

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Tim I had to be in front of the Tv for Centennial and Roots .  For what ever reason I did not watch the Ken Burns series when it was first telecast.  Since then I have seen it several times and own a copy of it.  When they repeat it on television I watch it every time.  I see more each time with the added reading and visiting I do to the battlefields. 

Many people say one of three things lead them to the Civil War study.  This program by Ken Burns , Killer Angels or the Golden Book of the Civil War .  None of these had I read or seen when I first took interest.  It was driving cross country and seeing a sign that said Pea Ridge.  I was hooked. 

I do lend my copy of Ken Burns to friends who express an interest in learning about the war though.

Susan

PS so glad you did see it . Love your maps

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My only criticisms about Burns and Civil War are minor. Over all I think he dida great job and rejuvinated interest in a part our history which was probably dwindling at that time. I too think a great deal of Foote. As I mentioned before, I met him at Laguardia on his way to film Civil War and mentioned how much I enjoyed reading his books. Later in a cpan books interview, he said how much he disdained people doing as I had done. Anticipating his new series national parks later this year.

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"he said how much he disdained people doing as I had done."

What did you do?



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I have heard that he hated people writing to him about how much they loved his books or trying to see him.  My cousin said though he was listed in the Memphis phonebook. 

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I just told him how much I had enjoyed reading his books.

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I saw Mr. Foote speak at the old Paramount Theater in downtown Denver a few years after the series aired. He seemed uncomfortable, was very hard of hearing, and was very short and curt during the question and answer session. Not quite the same folksy persona that he portrayed on television. I still enjoyed the talk immensely, though.

Back to the KB series - I also remember seeing the episode about Fredericksburg for the first time. I was flabbergasted at the politics and then the carnage. This was a place that I had to see. I can write for awhile about this, but in short, I became an ardent supporter of the APCWS (later the CWPT) as soon as possible after this trip. I was SO disappointed to see so much development on such hallowed ground. I guess Ken Burns can get some of the credit for a good deal of my donations to preservation.

Susan - thank you very much for the kind words.

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It's funny, Duke, that you say you put the DVDs on as background noise--I do the same thing! I saw the series on PBS when it first aired, and bits and pieces of it when it was aired afterwards, and eventually I got the DVDs as a Christmas present. I have used the series in my classroom for different reasons: for my Civil War club, as a good background (tho not the entire series!) and as a take-off for study of specific battles, and in my regular classes as great short examples of biography--the Grant and Lee snippets are great for how to use both quotes, and how to use unique aspects of the person's life to create interesting biography.

There are many little inaccuracies in it, but it's enough for me to know the real facts and still enjoy it. There are worse mistakes in other documentaries and movies (Gettysburg, anyone?). The sound of Shelby Foote's voice is so smooth and cool, and he spins a tale so well. And of course, there's Ed Bearrs--my kids get such a kick out of him, his voice and his mannerisms--but I'd give my right arm to be able to tour a battlefield with him just once! (I sort of did, at Gettysburg a couple years ago. My husband and son and I were hiking around the Rose Woods in July, and from across the Wheatfield came a group in the direction of the woods. However, I could hear Ed way before that, and I kept following the group around discreetly as long as I could, just to listen to him.)

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Who, exactly, was Barbara Fields and what were her Civil War credentials, so to speak?

Also, I wish they gave more time to Ed Bearrs. He is a unique individual with a tremendous amount of knowledge.

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she was the lady who sounded like she was about to fall asleep and always held her head at a funny angle....LOL!

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Ed Bearss rules! I would love to tour a battlefield with him.

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Captain Crow wrote: she was the lady who sounded like she was about to fall asleep and always held her head at a funny angle....LOL!
but I'll bet she could beat up Ken Burns:P

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I believe she's a professor at Columbia University.

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She probably could beat up Ken Burns, Crow. But that's not a huge feat. :)

I did think she was pretty blah, after Shelby Foote and Ed Bearss.

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Another observation. Andersonville was described in detail and with photographs. The only mention of the other civil war prison camps was that Andersonville was the worst. Not a word regarding Elmira, Camp Douglass, Ft. Delaware, etc. Elmira and Camp Douglass had similar death rates as Andersonville. In addition, the guards at Andersonville had extremely high death rates. I had ancestors who died in Andersonville, Camp Douglass, Ft. Delaware and Elmira. Also, Winder was a distant relative. As I've told others, my family doesn't do well in pow camps.

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