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 Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 06:05 pm
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My esteemed Old Blue

I agree wholeheatedly with Doc J's/PrtClewells above posts. Again this sounds very similar to the writings which were published back in the late nineteenth century in the southern historical journal. Are you possibly related to Mr. Early? I take great offense to your comment regarding socialist leaning writers, screwing the south, etc. I believe that it's better to look at Lee as human rather than the infalable god like individual you seem to be wanting to perpertrate. When considered human, then one can truly judge his accomplishments. He was a great man and general but he made mistakes.

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 Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 07:48 pm
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Blu,
You can say what you want, but Gen Lee was outgeneraled at Gettysburg. No other way around it. In fact, he should have listened to Longstreet, but he got tunnel vision.

We do ourselves no favor when we don't recognize the limitations of our leaders and heroes.. they were not infallible.

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 Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 11:50 pm
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I would suggest Tom Connelly's excellent The Marble Man for the construction of the popular Lee image.



 Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2009 01:52 pm
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Old Blu wrote: Any view contrary to what I posted is from the likes of socialist leaning authors and the work they do at creating biased books with the intent to make money from the north.
Screw the South and the truth.


Old Blu,

Doc C is right there no leftist agenda here just an observation about Lee. All I am saying is Longstreet is quoted more then once about Lee and his "Blood lust" in battle. I can tell the history has ignored these comments by Longstreet as he was just trying to tarnish Lee's image but I say is lets take them as truth and then look at Lee's behavior during battle and see if there is truth in Longstreet's words. Lets look at his behavior in life did he have any of what would be called "Thrill seeker" behavior...

I have search the web and form anything except Michael Fellman's "Making of Robert E. Lee and a article by him called "Struggling with Robert E. Lee" but there not what I was looking for...

I found lots of lock(Pay for) magazine articles where people have done psychological work ups of Lee and from what little I can tell is Lee was no "Marble man"...

No one has taking Longstreet's words and looked to see if they ring with truth, remember Longstreet stand next to Lee in a many battles he should know what he is talking about....was Lee an Adrenalin Freak..or maybe the word "Bloodlust had a different meaning in the 1860's...

Some thoughts to ponder..

 

 

 

 



 Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2009 03:10 pm
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Pryor's Reading the Man is also a good treatise on Lee, the man. A great deal of information was gleaned by researching his letters. As an aside, I was up at Gettysburg yesterday and stood where reportedly Lee sat on his horse (just south of the Virginia state monument) observing the Pickett-Pettigrew-Trimble charge. Also, work has already begun on demolishing the old vc there.

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A quote from from W.E.B. Du Bois, referring to Lincoln but imho also can be applied to Lee as well, seems appropriate concerning the last couple of posts "As sinners, we like to imagine righteousness in our heroes. As a result, when a great man dies, we begin to whitewash him, and remember only the fine and brave and good. We slur over and explain away his inconsistencies until there appears before us, not the real man but the myth - immense, perfect, cold and dead." "I love him (Lincoln) not because he was perfect but because he was not and yet triumphed."

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