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 Posted: Sat Oct 3rd, 2009 03:38 am
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I have recently obtained an 1851 Colt Navy revolver. However, it has NO serial number or manufacturer stamped anywhere on the weapon. It is in very good condition = no "dings", pitting, "scars". Just needs a good cleaning.

Could it be that Confederate copies were not given serial numbers or any ID markings?  How does one determine a replica or an original?


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 Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 02:50 am
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SHOUTING>>>>>

Do not clean it!  If it is indeed original, you will destroy all or most of its value if you "shine it up".... leave it alone and get an estimate of value and authenticity

 

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 Posted: Sun Oct 4th, 2009 03:34 am
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1. It isn't confederate.

2. I don't believe it to be an original.

3. Look at the cylinder to breech face mating then take some measurements, particularly of the screws, if they're metric they're Italian.

4. Look to a reputable dealer say Lodgewood or College Hill Arsenal for verification. At first glance I would say it's an Italian Pietta but I've been wrong before and am no expert on pistols by any means.



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Wow! that is the 2nd warning I have received today to not CLEAN the gun.

Unfortunately, I belatedly shined a pen light down the bore and found that it was plugged (or never through). Also, the cylinder chambers are not fully open that it would accept the charge, plug, and ball. And it appears that the caps are FIXED. THE PIECE IS A NON-FIRING REPLICA. It is merely a display piece, so guess it can be cleaned up.

Thanks for the input.
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 Posted: Mon Oct 5th, 2009 11:48 pm
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hope you didn't pay too much for it..
and yes, you can clean it to your heart's content, if fact, if you want, I'll be gald for your to clean my '58 Remington replica



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Well... as a matter of fact, didn't pay a lot. It came with a 1942 US Army leather holster, which I found on eBay selling for more than I paid for the gun AND holster.

Anyone know what a replica of this 1851 Colt might be worth?



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ArtChee wrote: Well... as a matter of fact, didn't pay a lot. It came with a 1942 US Army leather holster, which I found on eBay selling for more than I paid for the gun AND holster.

Anyone know what a replica of this 1851 Colt might be worth?


Firing replicas are couple or 3 hundred dollars and up.. from Cabellas, Bass pro, etc...

A non firing replica... I would not pay anything for it, but I think they sell for $40 to $50 IIRC



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from the photos it does not have the patina that you would expect of an era pc.



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it looks good thou.



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A couple of quick pointers if you are looking at percussion era colts replica o0 otherwise. Grab the cylinder with your thumb and forefinger on the cylinder just in front of the recoil shields. Check to see how much back and forth play is in the cylinder on the frame. Also with the hammer forward check to see how much wobble is in the cylinder side to side. Take the hammer back to full cock and check that wobble movement again, it should be the same or VERY close to what it was with the hammer forward. Put the hammer at half cock and put the weapon next to your ear,barrel up. Listen to the locking lugs as you slowly turn the cylinder. All should lock in with a good solid click. I always take a penlight with me so when I have the piece at full cock I can check the cylinder to barrel alighnment. This is also checking the timing. If the cylinder chamber doesn't line up with the barrel don't buy it! The space between the front of the cylinder when fully cocked and breech of the barrel should be no more than .014 of an inch. I used to use my credit card to check. Make sure the nipples aren't distorted or flattened. you shouldn't dry fire any percussion revolver. Hope I didn't bore anyone, but iof anyone else has suggestions please let me, know. I'm getting abit older and sometimes things slip away! Thanks.:):)



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