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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 05:37 am |
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CameronsHighlander Member
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This Friday & Saturday this movie will be on AMC. This ranks as one of the best Civil War Movies of all time right up there with Glory, Red Badge of Courage, Shannendoah, and Gone with the Wind. If you can get past the fact that Grant and Sherman don't look like themselves and John Wayne is too tall to be a Cavalryman you'll love it...
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 09:27 pm |
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Captain Crow Progressive Southerner 
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always one of my favs. Loosely based on Grierson's raid I believe.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 10:41 pm |
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Doc C Member 
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One of my favorites for a number of reasons. A great deal of the filming was done in Natchitoches, La close to where I grew up. Correct it's based loosely on Grierson's raid. One of my favorite lines is referencing Andersonville. Andersonville didn't come into existence for about a year after Grierson's raid. Great actors and cameo appearances. Read York's - Fiction as Fact, which looks into the behind the scenes film, comparison with Grierson's raid, etc. Doc C
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| Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 01:46 pm |
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Barlow Member 
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I love the fight scene between William Holden and John Wayne. But, I think that the scene in which cadets from the local military academy fight against the Union is loosely based on the Battle of New Market...but instead of 6 deceased VMI students, John Wayne orders the kids spanked. LOL.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 04:13 pm |
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9Bama Member
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The union uniforms are plains 1880's vintage IIRC and If not mistaken, Wayne uses a single action army Colt pistol cowboy style six shooter and a 1870's Winchester, both metallic cartridge arms not yet made during the war. The only real complaint I have with it however is that Strother Martin did not get drawn and quartered! It is a fun movie and based pretty closely on Grierson's raid, with the usual Hollywood embellishments as have been noted thruout the thread. Gen Grierson was from Jacksonville, Illinois the town where I went to college. He is buried there, and every year a friend and i place a small American flag on his grave.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 2nd, 2010 07:34 pm |
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Michael F. Blake Member
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The Battle of Newton Station was filmed on MGM's lot 3 (which is now a condo complex). The train in the film came from the Comstock Lode and was bought by MGM in the late 1930s. You can see it in the "Atcheson, Topeka & Santa Fe" number of HARVEY GIRLS with Judy Garland. When MGM sold off all of their stuff, Old Tucson bought the train & rolling stock. It was in a lot of films that shot there, including JOE KIDD and TOMBSTONE. When Old Tucson had that awful fire, the rolling stock was destroyed, as was the train. The engine & coal car were fixed up and still stand at Old Tucson, but no longer runs. Another trivia piece, that same train is used in the opening of MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE, which shot it on the MGM Lot 3. Sadly, stuntman Fred Kennedy was killed on this film. He had been part of John Ford's stock company since 1949 (he plays the soldier who fights Claude Jarmin in RIO GRANDE). In this film, he begged Ford to allow him to do a horse fall, where he'd get extra money. Ford relented and when Fred fell, he landed wrong and broke his neck, killing him. Ford lost interest in the film and this is why the films ends rather lackluster. Originally it was to end with Wayne & company returning heroically after completing their mission.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 4th, 2010 04:36 am |
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9Bama Member
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I was wrong, Wayne uses a '58 Remington in the movie..only saw a short piece and did not see a rifle...was it a Winchester lever gun?
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| Posted: Sun Jul 4th, 2010 04:13 pm |
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CameronsHighlander Member
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Barlow wrote: I love the fight scene between William Holden and John Wayne. But, I think that the scene in which cadets from the local military academy fight against the Union is loosely based on the Battle of New Market...but instead of 6 deceased VMI students, John Wayne orders the kids spanked. LOL. I think the boys are a bit too young I think it more refernces the Battle outside Savanah Georgia with a little New Market tossed in. The Cadets at VMI Ranged from Ages 17 - 25 (most being 18 Class of 1864, one Cadet was 25, two were from the North NY & NJ and one was from Argentina) their Commander Lt. Colonel Scott Scipp was about 21 at the time of Battle, also they had a four peice Battery, but thats the only similarities the boys in the movie appear between the ages of 9 - 15 with their commander in his late 60's.
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