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Ironclads.

http://www.amazon.com/Ironclads-VHS-Virginia-Madsen/dp/B00008YP0W

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Rocky Mountain.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042899/

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  • Cold Harbor
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  • Johhny Shiloh: Part 1
  • Ride with the Devil
  • Rocky Mountain
  • Shenandoah
  • Tall Target
  • The Andersonville Trial
  • The Beguiled
  • The Great Locomotive Chase
  • The Hunley
  • Willie and the Yank: The Mosby Raiders  

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Ok, how about the miniseries The Blue and the Gray? And I'm talking the full 381 minute version, not the edited 2005 296 minute version.

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Should we also include NORTH & SOUTH I & II?

I think so.

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  • Ride with the Devil
  • Rocky Mountain
  • Shenandoah
  • Tall Target
  • The Andersonville Trial
  • The Beguiled
  • The Blue and the Gray (381 minute version)
  • The Great Locomotive Chase
  • The Hunley
  • Willie and the Yank: The Mosby Raiders  
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     Ok, what else is there. List of movies they could have added is certainly growing. As Michael's original post did point out that not all the movie's on TCM's list pertain to the Civil War per se, what about The Oldest Living Confederate Widow Tells All? Doesn't take place during the war as I recall, but Donald Sutherland's character was supposed to be a Confederate veteran. And I recall at some point there being a road trip where his character, then much older, was reliving his war years by visiting some of the battlefields he fought on. Also, what about The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly and Dances with Wolves? Both either take place during the war or begin during the war.

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    Yep...we need our own TV channel. the GB&U portrays a highly fictionalized version of the battle of Val Verde...but still...how the hell did Sergio Leone hear about Sibley's New Mexico campaign?

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    I can see it now. You're watching Ironclads on the CWI Channel. Stay tuned for Reenacting, Just Play Acting or Keeping History Alive?

    On Leone, who says he heard about the NM Campaign?. He co-wrote the story with Luciano Vincenzoni. Together they were two of the four of the Italian screenplay writers. But there was a fifth screenplay writer, Mickey Knox who wrote the english screenplay. Maybe Leone's original Italian screenplay was set after the war and Knox when he wrote the English screenplay changed it to the NM Campaign.

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     Posted: Sat Mar 19th, 2011 04:26 am
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    Hey, will the CWI channel have a show on how to actuately perform a CW amputation?:shock:

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    I'll have to look into the special features on my DVD....I seem to remember it being directly attributed to Sergio somehow...I'll get back with on that HC...now I have an excuse to fire up the movie again as well.
    Stay tuned right here on CWI, for Geraldo's "Secrets of Civil war Amputations"...being re-staged in Al Capone's vault.

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    Now that one was just plain bad. Plus I'm not sure whoever he's working for now would let him do that now. Twenty, thirty years ago absolutely.

    Though with modern tech, it could show how to actually prefrom a CW era amputation without ever really preforming one :P

    Actually, medicine might make a good special or maybe a series of a few episodes. It is an area that doesn't seem to get as much attention unless you're interested in medicine to begin with. Can remember going to a re-enactment about ten years ago or so and one of the re-enactors took the role of a Federal doctor. Turned out in real life he was either a modern doctor or an RN. Or was it an EMT? It was something I never really gave much attention to until then. I know there's books and such on the subject, but it's one of those areas that doesn't seem to get much focus. Maybe that's just me.

  • Cold Harbor
  • Dances with Wolves
  • Ironclads
  • Johhny Shiloh: Part 1
  • North And South I
  • North and South II
  • Ride with the Devil
  • Rocky Mountain
  • Shenandoah
  • Tall Target
  • The Andersonville Trial
  • The Beguiled
  • The Blue and the Gray (381 minute version)
  • The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
  • The Great Locomotive Chase
  • The Hunley
  • The Oldest Living Confederate Widow Tells All
  • Willie and the Yank: The Mosby Raiders    

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    Although I realize this post is almost a year old, lol, just ran across your site and thought I'd just add this.  TCM, to my knowledge, the only other Disney film they have shown is Old Yeller.

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    I would take Dances With Wolves off the list because it only has the Civil War in the intro. I would add Wicked Spring and the Last Confederate

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    The arguement on Dances with Wolves was that it begins during the war which is why it was on it. Which I believe is more than can be said for Uncle Tom's Cabin which takes place before the war and was on the list of Civil War movies TCM was showing last April.

    Actually even after the battle portions of the movie would still be taking place during the war as it begins in 1863.

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    I would have dumped DWW just because it was a terrible movie... but I guess thats just me : )

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    Hey, don't dis DWW--I kinda gotta thing for Kevin Costner :).

    Seriously, though, I don't think of DWW as a Civil War movie. Most of it is afterward (even though it starts in the war)and out west. Even the themes (white versus Native American) are more related to after the war's time period.

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    Hellcat wrote: True. We could probably come up with a list of movies, whether we like them all ourselves or not, of movies they could have added to the list. They've got their reasons for picking the movies they did and leaving others off.

    The original list that was being compiled was just as  the quote says, come up with a list of movies that TCM could have added. Whether we like the movies ourselves or not. And if you look the very first list we started with was just three movies, we slowly built it up. The Original TCM list was

    Michael F. Blake wrote: Turner Classic Movie cable channel will honor the 150th anniversary of the Civil War with movies shown on Monday & Wednesday throughout the month of April.

    The list of films include:

    Gone With the Wind, Raintree County, Friendly Pursuasion, Band of Angels, Of Human Hearts, Little Women (1949 version), Birth of a Nation (1915; silent), The Coward (1915; silent), The General (1927; silent), Grandma's Boy (1922; silent), Uncle Tom's Cabin (1927; silent), A Southern Yankee, The Littlest Rebel, Adavance to the Rear, Golden Girl, General Spanky (Our Gang short), Outlaw Josey Wales, Major Dundee, The Horse Soldiers, Escape from Fort Bravo, A Time for Killing, Alvarez Kelly, Virginia City, The Seige at Red River, Great Day in the Morning, Hangman's Knot, Glory, Gettysburg, Red Badge of Courage (Audie Murphy version), Abraham Lincoln (1931), Tenessee Johnson, Durango, Romance of Rosy Ridge, Count Three & Pray.

    All silent films will have a musical score.  Some of the films do not deal with the Civil War per se, but take place during the time.  Am kinda disappointe dthat they did not schedule THE TALL TARGET (about Lincoln's attempted assination going to Washington.



    The only movie I argued against adding to the list was The Conspirator. My reasoning at the time was:

    Hellcat wrote:
    I think The Conspirator is an absolute can not add to the list for two reasons. First, it hasn't been released in theaters yet. According to IMDb it premiered at the Toronto International Film Festival last September and was first aired here at the Savannah Film and Video Festival in November. But it's US theatrical release isn't until the 15th of next month. And second, it seems more likely that TCM would play movies after their no longer in theaters and likely up for sale. Or could be for sale whether they actually are or not.

    Not trying to put the Redford movie down, just saying I don't think we can add it to the list of movies we'd like to see added to the list of what TCM is playing next month.

    That said the movie has now been out for nearly a year and it's been on DVD for a while now as well. If TCM were to again run another Civil War movie fest this April I can now see The Conspirator as it no longer fits both of the reasons I said to leave it off.

    If we're looking at adding on to the list then here's the updated version

  • Cold Harbor
  • Dances with Wolves
  • Ironclads
  • Johhny Shiloh: Part 1
  • North And South I
  • North and South II
  • Ride with the Devil
  • Rocky Mountain
  • Shenandoah
  • Tall Target
  • The Andersonville Trial
  • The Beguiled
  • The Blue and the Gray (381 minute version)
  • The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
  • The Great Locomotive Chase
  • The Hunley
  • The Last Confederate: The Story of Robert Adams 
  • The Oldest Living Confederate Widow Tells All
  • Wicked Spring 
  • Willie and the Yank: The Mosby Raiders 
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