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 Posted: Fri May 20th, 2011 09:47 pm
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My heads already hurting. I've had to explain enough times to folks that the book is a work of fiction and yet they keep asking if he really hunted vampires and it's something teachers fail to teach because of some big conspiracy. No, I've never read the book, when I first heard of this I thought the person asking about it was nuts until I did a net search which brought up as one of the first hit's an Amazon link. That right there proved a red flag that it was fiction. And sure enough it was. Now I can accept folks reading something like that for entertainment as long as they understand it's fictional, but it does bother me when they insist it was fact. And they push it as such.

When I went on Yahoo their logo was advertising for the latest Pirates of the Caribbean movie I had to hit IMDb to find out if the advert was because the movie opened this week. I already knew it was coming out considering commercials had been on TV for a little bit, but the fact that Yahoo had their logo changing as an advert had me wondering if it was because the movie opened today. And sure enough IMDb announced it was one of today's opening movies. But it also announced that Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter will be released next year as a movie. My head's hurting already from all the folks who are gonna be asking if it's true and all who are gonna be pushing that it's true.

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 Posted: Fri May 20th, 2011 11:23 pm
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Hellcat,

Isn't it a sorry state. When the book came out I'd do my news search each morning and run into hundreds of stories on this drek. I'm pleased to report that as hard as anyone tries, they will not find word one about it on the CWi Newswire (and never will, even when it comes out as a movie). Before I'm accused of bias, I wouldn't run a story on "Jefferson Davis: Vampire Hunter" either.    :D

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 Posted: Sat May 21st, 2011 02:43 am
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Actually it'd probably have to be Jefferson Davis: Zombie Hunter so as to get folks not to think it was a copy of the lincoln vampire hunter book ;). Though if it was done by the same author it'd probably be Jefferson Davis: Dark Vampire Supreme. The descriptions I find of that plot just sounds so exteremly slanted against the South that I'd be willing to bet they'd make Davis a villian.

I do think that movies can be used as a teaching tool, but I see nothing of value in a movie like this.

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 Posted: Tue May 24th, 2011 05:33 am
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I was invited to be in the film. It was being film outside of New Orleans and I was told the blood suckers get Lincoln. It was filmed for about 2 weeks there with Confederate Troops, and when it will be released I have no idea. It took them almost 6 months to release American Outlaw filmed in this area of Texas, and about a year to release God and Generals and Gettysburg, all of which I took some small part in; i.e., "background artist."
Don't ask for autographs not that big of a deal.

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I was invited to be in the film. It was being film outside of New Orleans and I was told the blood suckers get Lincoln. It was filmed for about 2 weeks there with Confederate Troops, and when it will be released I have no idea.

The movie is coming out in 3D on June 22, 2012. You can read more about it and see the trailer at:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1611224

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I love fiction, and I love the Civil War, but this is not the kind of Civil War fiction I have any interest in reading, nor would I suggest this book to my students, no matter how hard I was trying to get them interested in either reading or the Civil War. I like Joe's word: drek!

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Ive already seen three people ask if the trailers for this are based on real history and at least a dozen people claim they are. At least half those claims were sarcastic, but the other half came across as serious. It's one thing when folks accept something like this as purely made for entertainment. But it gets me how many will think that something like this is actual history that we're being lied to about.

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 Posted: Sun Jun 24th, 2012 12:35 am
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Though it is heretical to confess this at a Civil War HISTORY web site, two others and myself went to see "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Killer" in 3-D today.It will be even more heretical to confess that all three of us really enjoyed the movie.

The 3-D quality is very good, giving the movie an eerie, life-like quality, while the lighting gives it a spooky, dreamlike quality, especially in some scenes.

Four scenes stand out for awesome photography. A horse stampede puts the viewer right in the middle. A vampire dinner/ball/battle makes one feel surrounded. A burning bridge with a locomotive racing to cross it is especially tense and the 3-D sparks come right into the audience.

The fourth scene of special interest is the amazing third day at Gettysburg. Someone here at CWI in another thread once asked why no one has ever filmed a Civil War battle in 3-D. Now someone has, and the impression is memorable. What most here will not like is that some of the attacking Confederates in Pickett's charge are vampires! You can pick them out because they wear sunglasses.

The 3-D is thrilling when it is shot from Cemetery Ridge looking down toward the attacking Confederates. You really get the perspective and depth perception. It feels incedibly realistic--until a vampire snarls.

Much of the movie is filmed in the New Orleans area. The Spanish moss on old oaks and the plantations were picturesque.

Yes, there is nonsense the serious-minded Civil War buff coud barely tolerate such as Mary Todd Lincoln passing out silver ammunition at Gettysburg and Lincoln's mother Nancy Hanks Lincoln dying from a vampire attack. Many may not care for the movie's end that hints at a more recent US president about to be recruited as a vampire hunter. The viewer is left to guess which president that is however.

This movie is definitely not for everyone, but it does have positive moments such as when Lincoln gives his Gettysburg Address. In 3-D that was spectacular and very moving.

I'm hoping the movie will inspire at least a few people to want to explore Civil War history seriously and in greater depth.

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No, you'd be a heritic if you run around claiming the movie depicts real history that the government ois purposefully hiding from us.

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Thanks for that, Hellcat. Actually I was certain I would get my fanny kicked for posting a somewhat glowing review of this movie.

I did greatly admire the cinematography, the lighting effects and the skillful use of 3-D imagery. Many movies I have seen have been disappointing in their use of 3-D, actually just wasting the extra cost of a ticket for 3-D.

I will repeat that the scene in which Lincoln gives his Gettysburg Address done in 3-D was very moving, bringing that great moment in history to life.

Many critics have panned this movie. They have their point of view. I hope, however, their ascerbic commentary doesn't discourage at least people from going to see it who might enjoy it.

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I knew last year exactly what was going to happen with this movie. Folks thinking this movie is actual history and running around crying about a government coverup. Or asking why they don't know about this part of our nations history. I'm not gonna decry you as a heretic for seeing it considering you should know better than to take it as anything but a work of fiction. I might disagree with the idea of going to see it and most assuredly disagree with the idea of seeing anything in 3D. But I'm not going to call you a heretic unless you start running around shouting it's real history.

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 Posted: Wed Jun 27th, 2012 10:28 pm
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How much alcohol will I have to consume to enjoy such a flick when it hits Redbox?

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Johan Steele wrote:
How much alcohol will I have to consume to enjoy such a flick when it hits Redbox?

Let's see. If you wait for RedBox and don't have a TV that is 3-D capable, you won't have the advantage of the realism in many scenes--which might be a good thing because it is pretty scarey when Abe's mighty ax comes flying.

Beers might actually help, however, suspend disbelief while Confederate vampires race relentlessly toward Union artillery. I'd suggest a strong, flavorful drink such as Guiness Stout or perhaps an interesting craft beer. Enjoy.

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I doubt you have any realism from 3D to begin with. Most 3D movies aren't filmed that way, they film them with regular cameras then add the 3D effects afterwards. PLUS you then have to sit there wearing special glasses just to watch a movie.

3D is already starting on it's way out again. Directors and producers are already complaining about the cost of having to make a 3D movie. Then you've got theaters looking to save money by not having the glasses. And more folks don't want to pay the extra just to watch a film in 3D. This isn't just personal belief, this is watching and the news each of these having been dicussed since March of this year.

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Hellcat, We'll have to disagree on this one. I go to movies every week, many in 3-D, some also in I-MAX such as the last Batman, the one with Heath Ledger as the Joker. Yes, some are definitely better than others. "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter" was better than many others for its use of 3-D. Some 3-D movies are hit-or-miss and really only appears in parts of the movie--a huge disappointment.

I have never been in a theater in which I was told there were not enough or no 3-D glasses. This movie in question did not charge extra for the 3-D, but most movies do carry an extra charge for the effect.

This movie did not have X-BOX seats available, though. Those are the ones that move with the soundtrack noise, so let's say, if, for example, there is a train wreck, you will get a heck of a trouncing in that seat...for a premium ticket, of course.

I know the topic of 3-D has become controversial among producers. My feeling is that it works better in movies with lots of action, CGI and in animated features. It is of little use in straight dramas and needless in comedies such as Adam Sandler's and Ben Stiller's typical fare or the upcoming "Ted" about a filthy-mouthed teddy bear.

I strongly feel the 3-D did add to the "AL:VH" experience, but have seen movies in which I felt it was just a wasted gimmick. Some directors don't seem to be able to think in 3-D and don't know how and when to employ it to best effect,just as very early directors weren't all equally skilled at adding sound to their movies when that technology developed.

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CleburneFan wrote:I strongly feel the 3-D did add to the "AL:VH" experience, but have seen movies in which I felt it was just a wasted gimmick. Some directors don't seem to be able to think in 3-D and don't know how and when to employ it to best effect,just as very early directors weren't all equally skilled at adding sound to their movies when that technology developed.
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 Posted: Fri Jun 29th, 2012 12:22 pm
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Part of the problem is the cost of the technology, the theatres pays something like $7 a pop for the glasses and reconfiguring the theatre itself to play a 3-D movies is pricey. W/ more and more people waiting for movies to hit red box and the financial hit Hollyweird has taken lately...

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