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HI ;

i'm the new guy on the block. i have a gg grandfather killed at the battle of the wilderness may 6 1864;his name phillip troy. his two brothers ira and charles b troy

fought at gettysberg.does anybody know how i can find  phillip troy's gravesite?

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I was going to say to try Find A Grave, but the only Troy listed as dieing at the Battle of the Wilderness on May 6th was a Thomas Settle Troy, 1st Lt. in Co. G 46th NC. Siblings don't fit, two sisters (Mary and Nancy) and a brother (James Alpheus). Anything else you can tell us? Like unit, where he's from?

 

Edit: Hey, this might be of some interest: http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/schuylkill/military/civilwar/pensions/t600002.txt. May not be the same man you're after, but the Wilderness was where Jackson recieved what would prove a fatal wounding a year earlier during the Battle of Chancellorsville. And this says that a Private Phillip Troy was discharged on the grounds of Death-mortally wounded at Chancellorsville.

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hey thanks for the help;phillip was 17th cavalry 162nd regiment co.h. i think he died in the hospital at battle of the wilderness may 8 1864.  

there is no record where he was buried that i can find. i believe you have the right phillip.

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I've got something for you. Not his gravesite I'm afraid, but I managed to find the Pa Veteran card file and according to it he died in Ambulance Hospital on May 9th. http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/archive.asp?view=ArchiveItems&ArchiveID=17&FL=T&FID=1448671&LID=1448720

http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/archive.asp?view=ArchivePrint&ArchiveID=17&chkARCHIVE_ITEM_ID=1435871&cmdPrint=+Print+Selected+Cards+

I'm not sure why the card says May 9th and the link I found earlier says May 8th. But it does appear to be supported by this muster pages:

http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/rg/di/r19-65RegisterPaVolunteers/r19-65Regt162/r19-65Regt162%20pg%2067.pdf

http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/rg/di/r19-65RegisterPaVolunteers/r19-65Regt162/r19-65Regt162%20pg%2068.pdf

Had to print them out and place them side by side to read them properly.

 I'm wondering if Ambulance Hospital doesn't mean he died in the ambulance while being taken to the hospital. Even so, where would he have then been buried. Or was the body lost.



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The Medical Director of the Army of the Potomac, Dr. Jonathan Letterman, organized the Army into a system of Divisional hospitals in October 1862. This system of organization and management eventually spread throughout the Federal Army. 

Commanded by one medical officer rather than a line officer, it consisted of four operating teams of three surgeons each and numerous medical attendants and support staff. Each hospital carried sufficient medical supplies to house and care for a typical division of 7,000-8,000 personnel. Division surgeons performed more thorough examinations and treatment of wounds and emergency surgeries. A large portion of surgeries were postponed until reaching the much larger Depot evacuation hospitals. At the end of the day’s campaigning, each division hospital set up what was referred to as a “Ambulance hospital” that treated minor wounds and common illness’ such as sunstroke and diarrhea. Division hospitals were organized into centrally located Corps Hospitals consisting of three to four divisions.
 

http://www.rochestergeneral.org/rochester-general-hospital/about-us/rochester-medical-museum-and-archives/online-exhibits/civil-war-medicine-and-the-rochester-city-hospital/division-and-corps-hospital/




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there was a terrible fire at the battle of the wilderness.

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did they put the hospital in a safe place?

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javal1 wrote: At the end of the day’s campaigning, each division hospital set up what was referred to as a “Ambulance hospital” that treated minor wounds and common illness’ such as sunstroke and diarrhea. Division hospitals were organized into centrally located Corps Hospitals consisting of three to four divisions.
 



Ok, so if Division hospitals were orginaized into centrally located Corps Hospitals then we should probably figure out where the Corps hospital might have been to figure out how close it was to the fire. As the 17th Pa Cavalry/162 Pa Regiment was in the Cavalry Corps during the Wilderness, then I'd think look up where the the Cavalry Corps, and particulary it's 1st Division, was during the battle.

And we do have an idea where Troy was wounded. On May 6th the regiment was at Brock Road and the Furnaces according to http://www.pacivilwar.com/regiment/162nd.html.



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i think that the hospital was at the wilderness tavern. attached map showing wilderness tavern.

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There were several hospitals in the area during the battle according to Plate 94, map 6 of The Offical Military Atlas of the Civil War. Books too big for my scanner, I had to take photos using a magnifier for the clearest image, and it's not that clear. For a clearer view of this map try
http://contentdm.baylor.edu/19wor/19wor_atlas_v2_094_06/. The map is supposed to be linked to Volume 36 of The War of the Rebellion: A Compilation of the Offcicia; Records of the Union and Confederate Armies.

Any rate, the map does show where the Furnaces are, though it doesn't show Brock Road. According to the 162/17th Pa site posted ealier, during the Wilderness the regiment saw action at Brock Road and the Furnaces on the 6th. Now the only hospital which had a speific date given with it was attached to the 6th Corps, which on the 7th was near the Artillery Reserve and Wright. I'm assuming the possibility that none of the others may have moved. Which then put's the 2nd Corps hospital postion at Carpenter near to the Furnaces.

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thanks for that. i'm heading down that way tomorrow to check it out. i'll give you a report in a few days.



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Good luck and have fun.



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i'm back!  attached is phillip troy's final resting place.at the nt'l burial grounds where they and   buried many men that had been at the battlle of the wilderness.  unfortunately many of them including phillip are buried with no names. and also up to 10 men in a grave.

i makes me sick.

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according to the ranger phillip was shot at catherine's furnace, probably reansported to the wilderness tavern ,died there, and buried there .  he was dug up at a later date and buried in the nat'l cemetary at fredricksburg with out a name and possibly in a common grave.  i hate it.

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i bought a book there at the rangers station for 25 bucks. attached is an excerpt about custer and catherine's furnace.   the wilderness campaign by garry h gallagher. 

i think that it is entirely possible that phillip was taken to a field  hospital at carpenter road  first.since it was so close to the battle. but the rangers said that he would probably go to the wilderness inn.  the rangers were very accommodating and spent a good deal of time with me.even though i am a yankee.

  i am quite sure that eventually he was buried  at fredericksburg nat'l cemetary anonymously.

donald c troy

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moesch monument

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Disregard the message I had posted here. Did some more checking and it's not an issue.



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