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| Posted: Thu Oct 6th, 2011 04:41 pm |
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Old Blu Member
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Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson. Cannon in the background are Confederate. Union are behind me. IT was a 300 yard cannon battle on Henry Hill 1st Manassas.  Last edited on Thu Oct 6th, 2011 04:44 pm by Old Blu |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 6th, 2011 06:11 pm |
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Mark Member
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Nice picture. I always thought that this ought to be called Thomas Jackson's Steroid memorial! It's a great example of how historical memory overwhelms reality. Mark
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| Posted: Thu Oct 6th, 2011 11:32 pm |
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Old Blu Member
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Mark wrote: Nice picture. I always thought that this ought to be called Thomas Jackson's Steroid memorial! It's a great example of how historical memory overwhelms reality. heh heh. Don't take it so hard, Mark. It is just a statue!
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| Posted: Fri Oct 7th, 2011 01:49 am |
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Why does that sound like a pun to me? To be honest, Old, I can't really make out any cannons. I do believe you that their there, though. There are objects back along the tree line that are probably the cannons but I can't tell what they are exactly. Nice shot of the statue, and as it's the focus of the picture it should certainly be what draws the eye. But I kinda wonder what was going on with that pedestal. Reminds me of a tomb. Not the coloring, the design. I swear I've seen some tombs designed like that. Kinda makes it weird to look at the statue with that running through my head.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 7th, 2011 01:58 am |
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Old Blu Member
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Hellcat wrote: Why does that sound like a pun to me? Yep. those unplain items are the cannons of the Confederate army from 1st. Manassas. Union cannon are behind me.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 8th, 2011 02:23 pm |
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Mark wrote: Nice picture. I always thought that this ought to be called Thomas Jackson's Steroid memorial! It's a great example of how historical memory overwhelms reality. Mark, I disagree with your assessment. " It's a great example of how historical memory overwhelms reality." In Michael Kammen's book" Mystic chords of memory" The transformation of tradition in american culture. On page 491 he writes " Most southerners remained sufficiently custom bound that public sculpture and other sorts of historic memorials had to be fairly conventional in order to win favor. In 1939, for example, when the Virginia state art commission selected a modernistic and impressionistic model for an equestrian statue of Stonewall Jackson to be erected on the battle field at Manassas, it aroused a furor. Members of the UDC and the Sons of Confederate veterans complained that the horse was too stocky and the rider looked more like U.S. Grant than Jackson. Similar episodes occured at regular intervals." That is why, I would have to disagree with you on that one Mark. Unless you are refering to yankee memory. This would help explain why they could not stop Old Jack. Pender
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| Posted: Sat Oct 8th, 2011 03:09 pm |
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Mark Member
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Perhaps I should clarify... Stonewall Jackson was unquestionably a superb Confederate general. However, according to the historical record he was also man with a slight build and a hypochondriac who preferred to wear an old ill-fitting old uniform and rode a poor excuse for a horse that was the butt of many army jokes. In this memorial, we see a larger than life figure that could bench-press 300lbs in a close fitting confederate uniform, on a horse that could win the win the triple crown. I'm just saying that when this memorial was sculpted the artist portrayed what he wanted the audience to remember about Jackson instead of reality. All memorials do this to some extent of course, but this one is the most blatant example of it that I can think of. Hope that clarifies things. Mark
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29th, 2012 07:19 pm |
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Darryl Member
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Mark you need to remember the fact that JEB Stuart bought him a complete new uniform which he did wear. Including a new forage cap. His horse was not that sorry looking, Although compared to the blooded mounts of the other officers he did leave much to be desired.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29th, 2012 07:24 pm |
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Darryl Member
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Mark, I learned something very important when I portrayed JEB Stuart. You have to include some of the legend in your portrayal. Doesn't mean you are demaning or lying, it just means most people have a set image in their mind and if you deviate from it too much you destroy the whole effect. If you wear something not quite right or something they have never seen him in you better be able to explain in a credibile manner why you're wearing it. Its not easy doing a major historical figure but if you really go into the person's mind with an open outlook and not be pompous you will do a better job.
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