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 Posted: Wed Sep 5th, 2012 01:43 pm
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I don't think this is an argument I want to touch with a ten foot pole, but, Savez, you of all people should recognize that what one person calls a well supported historical argument is what another person calls yankee or lost cause propaganda. Complete historical impartiality is an impossibility because history is not a science. Cheers!

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And it was men like Wigfall who gave us exactly why they were for Secession.

"It provides land for the land-less, homes for the home-less, but no slaves for the slave-less."




[size=--- U.S. Senator Louis T. Wigfall of Texas, explaining his opposition to the original version of the Homestead Act]



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I am not ashamed of having fought on the side of slavery—a soldier fights for his country—right or wrong—he is not responsible for the political merits of the course he fights in ... The South was my country."

John S. Mosby



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“You have no right to ask, or expect that she will at once profess unbounded love to that Union from which for four years she tried to escape at the cost of her best blood and all her treasure. Nor can you believe her to be so unutterably hypocritical, so base, as to declare that the flag of the Union has already surpassed in her heart the place which has so long been sacred to the ‘Southern Cross.’ ”
General Wade Hampton



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I'd rather every one of my children should be laid out on the cooling board, than to have the Yankees get my slaves."

Georgia mother of four, as recounted by "Miss Abby," an Atlanta schoolteacher, May 30, 1864.



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"When the people of South Carolina, in Convention assembled, seceded from the Union of the United States, they put forth in justification of their course, as its proximate or immediate cause, the various acts of the people of the Northern States, interfering with their institution of slavery..."

(Robert Barnwell Rhett, in a public letter to former governor of South Carolina, William Aiken, Nov. 19, 1864.)



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"Slavery, God's institution of labor, and the primary political element of our Confederation of Government, state sovereignty...must stand or fall together. To talk of maintaining our independence while we abolish slavery is simply to talk folly."

(Charleston Courier, Jan. 24, 1865.)



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"What was the reason that induced Georgia to take the step of secession? This reason may be summed up in one single proposition. It was a conviction, a deep conviction on the part of Georgia, that a separation from the North - was the only thing that could prevent the abolition of her slavery." -- Henry Benning of Georgia.



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"You cannot transform the negro into anything one-tenth as useful or as good as what slavery enables them to be."

Jefferson Davis, February 1861.



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"The South went to war on account of slavery,...South Carolina went to war as she said in her secession proclamation, because slavery would not be secure under Lincoln,...don't you think South Carolina ought to know why it went to war?"

John Singleton Mosby,



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June 26, 1857

"There is a natural disgust in the minds of nearly all white people to the idea of indiscriminate amalgamation of the white and black races ... A separation of the races is the only perfect preventive of amalgamation, but as an immediate separation is impossible, the next best thing is to keep them apart where they are not already together. If white and black people never get together in Kansas, they will never mix blood in Kansas ..."

R. Basler, Collected Works (1953), vol. II, pp. 405, 408, 409.
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Lincoln

Peoria, Illinois, on October 16, 1854,
“My first impulse would be to free all the slaves, and send them to Liberia, to their own native land." After acknowledging that this plan's "sudden execution is impossible," he asked whether freed blacks should be made "politically and socially our equals?" "My own feelings will not admit of this," he said, "and [even] if mine would, we well know that those of the great mass of white people will not ... We can not, then, make them equals."

Roy P. Basler, editor, et al, The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln (New Brunswick, N. J.: Rutgers Univ. Press, 1953-1955



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