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 Posted: Wed Nov 8th, 2006 03:28 pm
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I think it is a toss up between The Searchers and The Man who Shot Liberty Valence as to which is my favorite John Wayne/John Ford movie.

Also although the Cynthia Ann Parker story is thought to be what The Searchers is based on, it is actually based on a slave named Britt Johnson who went searching for his family after they were captured in the Elm Creek Raid of 1864.  His wife was a white woman and Johnson was in east Texas at the time working for the Confederate Army as a teamster. 

See the following links:

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/JJ/fjo7.html

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/EE/bte1.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Searchers_(film)

Alan Le May just didn't think 1950s America was ready for a black hero married to a white woman so he changed up the characters.  David Smith has a nice discussion about this in his great book Frontier Defense in the Civil War: Texas' Rangers and Rebels (available from the Texas A&M Press I might add) 

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Wow, David, that is fantastic new information!  Thanks for passing it on.  Patty



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A link concerning Ross and Cynthia Anne Parker.

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/RR/fro81.html



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If you go to Ft. Parker in Limestone County (near Mexia, pronounced Ma-Hay-ya) there is a plaque on the gorund where John Parker (Cynthia Anne's daddy) was killed by the Commanches and it says he was a veteran of the American Revolution.  Which makes Quannah Parker a son of the American Revolution.



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There is about a zillion links concerning Parker/Ross/The Searchers/Britt Johnson

One more:

http://www.truewestmagazine.com/archives/westerns/western-searchers_04_06.htm

Susan, I didn't make it out to Los Angeles as planned, all the family came out here to visit instead. My mom couldn't wait to see the new (to us) place in Corinth so we called off the trip and rescheduled for next year.

Tom



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Tom , sorry you didn't make it to the Drum.  I did see pictures of the new site at Corinth .  One of the members of Union Daughters had pictures from her recent visit.  I was very impressed with the brass relics in the cement.  What a great idea.  I was hoping to come back to Memphis in the spring but doesn't look like it will happen this year. 

If you get a chance come on down to the Drum . 

 

You found the article in True West I was trying to find in my paper copy of the magazine. Thanks . 

Susan



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Trivia time: Ward Bond thought he had a huge rear end and hated any shot which revealed it. Check out just how many times John Ford did just that to tick him off. Apparently Ford, John Wayne, Henry Fonda, Merian Cooper were all in on the joke.


Tom,

LOL.  :)  IIRC, Bond's character in "The Searchers" took an arrow in the butt. :)

Hope all is well.

Regards from the Garden State,

Steve



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Evening all.

Just wanted to add that all this month, Turner Classic Movies is having a John Ford retrospective every Tuesday night.  Included is an updated documentary of the Films of John Ford, that features some great interviews with John Wayne, James Stewart, Henry Fonda, and one of my all time fave character actors, Harry Carey, Jr. 

Regards from the Garden State,

Steve Basic



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Horse Soilders is a great movie to watch when you are getting your gear ready to go reenact, always reminds me of good times with my partners, and gets me ready for the next one is a bummer in Winter Months though.

My Favorite Wayne movies are the Cav. Trilogy and Rooster Cogburn. I always stop when i see a John Wayne Movie on cable my wife, just rolls her eyes at me LOL .

 



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In our house the roles are reversed. She watches John Wayne. I roll my eyes and to to my room.

Ole



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For those interested, Ford's Trilogy of Cavalry movies will be shown back to back on Tuesday evening from 8 PM EST until 2:15 AM EST commercial free on Turner Classic Movies.  For those real devout late nighters, at 2:15 AM "The Horse Soldiers" will also be shown. :)

Regards from the Garden State,

Steve Basic

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Watching Ford's Fort Apache.  Ward Bond wears his medal of honor medal pinned to his uniform.  Isn't this the only medal to be worn around the neck?

Doc C



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Doc C,

Ford had it right. The medal was pinned up until WWII when it became custom to wear the medal around the neck. Check out this website for a history of the MOH.

http://www.cmohs.org/medal/medal_types.htm

Tom



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